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WHY Couldn’t they CLIMB?! | Emirates flight 521 

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On the 3rd of August 2016, the #flight crew of an #Emirates Boeing 777-300 performed a go-around, when their #landing on runway 12L in #Dubai went wrong. But instead of accelerating and #climbing out normally, the #aircraft fell back down on the runway. How did this happen?
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Final Report:
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CHAPTERS
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00:00 - Start
00:22 - A flight in progress
03:08 - Windshear escape
04:49 - Go-around and missed approach
07:30 - Thermals
11:13 - Final approach
12:50 - Reducing tailwind
15:05 - Correct landing procedure
16:37 - Floating
19:42 - Go-around!
23:31 - Not enough lift
26:42 - A tragic twist of fate
27:44 - Investigation insights

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@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 年 前
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@Nag825
@Nag825 年 前
Ok
@sonnenscheinsommer4754
I am totally shocked that boeing had no clear audio and visual warning (like a fat red frame around the main display or so) if you press toga but autotrottle doesn't come with, that this is highlighted. That is sooooo not understandable, that is criminal to not highlight this information.
@fredashay
@fredashay 年 前
Well, without watching your video yet. If I wasn't climbing immediately after rotation, my first instinct without even thinking about it would be to check the flaps... But in this case, I don't blame the pilots at all. It was an unfortunate result of automation doing exactly what it was programmed to do...
@woodywoodman2319
@woodywoodman2319 年 前
BOAC 911, March 1966 crash! Must Do Video content!!!
@noshit1871
@noshit1871 年 前
why aren't we developing a system to prevent critical information going unnoticed? A small screen in the cabin which is set to destination airport, showing all the recent updates like an instagram feed, no matter which radio channel you are using, what you are hearing or not. Each tower has its own channel, where they constantly post stuff like Lufthansa flight bla bla.. aircraft type bla bla.. go around due bla blaa.. Emirates flight bla bla... aircraft type bla bla.. landed, experienced heavy tirbulance Qatar Airlines flight bla bla.. aircraft type bla bla.. landed... bla bla.. Pilots can use the screen to monitor what is going on at the airport no matter if they are on the other channel or different people talk over eachother and something goes unnoticed. This whole thing can be done without any complicated engineering application. You got internet or some other connection both on the plane and in the tower right? All you need is few cable connections, a small monitor in the cabin, a software update or an extra computer for the tower where they can automatically or manually enter the recent activity, and a server somewhere to connect it all globally. I swear with help from a few friends, i can fix this dumb problem in a short time. On the other hand the entire industry is acting like there aren't many simple solutions to such simple problems. The cost of such a system would be laughable even if a single airline was paying for the entire thing for every tower and plane, alone. I don't even know how many times we heard "they didn't hear it" in your videos, and i dont know how many of them ended with tragedy. I am not sure if the industry is full of really intelligent people or just a random bunch who just convince themselves that they are intelligent. People follow eachother's every move on social media, we all know who was where, what they ate, what they did.. and all that crap. You can't follow what is going on at the airport where you will attempt a landing soon. Sorry for the language but as a passenger, hearing such stuff is just pissing me off.
@oldmandancing
@oldmandancing 年 前
The name of the firefighter who gave his life to save the others was Jassim Al Bloushi. May he rest in peace. _/\_
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 年 前
Yes, indeed.
@garyhaber6957
@garyhaber6957 年 前
Amen
@TerryTheNewsGirl
@TerryTheNewsGirl 年 前
I share those sentiments.
@garyhaber6957
@garyhaber6957 年 前
@@salemabdulalhassam3726 you would if he gave his life to save you or one of your family and friends (assuming you have any friends)..... I have seen a lot of rubbish in comments on JPvid and other places but never something so insensitive. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself and you need to go away and think about what you have said and what sort of a heart you have.....
@salemabdulalhassam3726
@@garyhaber6957 lol get lost. Greetings from Dubai
@RobertDavis-qh1ry
@RobertDavis-qh1ry 年 前
Sadness for the firefighter who lost his life trying to save the lives of the people on the plane, and for the family he left behind. Even when it is "only one" there is heartbreak and sorrow. Sincere condolences to his loved ones. May he rest in peace.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 年 前
Indeed 💕💕😔
@RobertDavis-qh1ry
@RobertDavis-qh1ry 年 前
@@MentourPilot Much appreciation for your channel and all your incites and comments. You are a pilot any passenger would feel glad to have in the cockpit.
@williamcarr459
@williamcarr459 10 ヶ月 前
Yessir. A really important thing to remember. This firefighter must be on history honor roll of hero. His courage, dedication and sacrifice touches our hearts. As you importantly point out even one is very sad. Thanks for reminding us!
@uebankarasov
@uebankarasov 7 ヶ月 前
I dont know what's worse: being the only one who died or being the only one who survived
@raerohan4241
@raerohan4241 6 ヶ月 前
​@@uebankarasov Personally, I would prefer being the only one who died. Especially if I was rescuing others. I could rest peacefully knowing that I had done my job and done it well. Contrasted with if I was the only one who survived, the survivor's guilt probably wouldn't let me live a peaceful life.
@_natalycamillo
@_natalycamillo 6 ヶ月 前
As bizarre as this may sound, I was one of the crew members on that flight, seated at L2 (second door on the left hand side). Even after 7 years I still remember the voice of the captain giving the command to evacuate! Btw, the video is very well done! Good job!
@rustledjimmz8967
@rustledjimmz8967 5 ヶ月 前
If this is true I commend you and the rest of the crew on the evacuation. I've heard people give crew members crap for it being a "just a server job" not realising how much more work and training it is. It must have been such a stressful experience, especially with so many of the passengers trying to bring their luggage and causing blockages while only a few exits worked! I hope you recovered quickly from any injuries and still enjoy flying
@_natalycamillo
@_natalycamillo 5 ヶ月 前
@@rustledjimmz8967 I appreciate it! I quit flying two years ago, but yeah it was a very stressful situation, even tho the whole training is very intense, when it happens in real life you have to count on your gut on the decision making. Flight attendants are a little bit of everything: psychologist, nanny, nurse, waiter… so proud of all of them!
@vaclavsahula7007
@vaclavsahula7007 ヶ月 前
@@_natalycamillo - Well, congratulations to you on losing your "dream job" with Emirates. Someone died in there, so they probably had to blame all the crew and just get rid of them asap. That company is a disgrace to all the aviation community. You are also a disgrace, because you actually were an Emirates slave. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@under90seconds
@under90seconds ヶ月 前
Is he still flying?
@_natalycamillo
@_natalycamillo 17 日 前
@@under90secondsI honestly don’t know!
@Niinsa62
@Niinsa62 年 前
Okay, if I understood this right, the flight crew had just a few seconds to realize that the TOGA buttons didn't work the way they had been taught in training. They followed company procedure, letting the computers help with flying, and realized fairly quickly that this wasn't working as expected, and started flying manually instead. But those seconds lost meant that it was too late. So sad, especially about that firefighter who lost his life.
@rustledjimmz8967
@rustledjimmz8967 5 ヶ月 前
What I wonder is, what happens to flight crew after an incident like this? I'd hope they receive the extra training and go back to flying because it seems like they are very good at their job, I highlight the start of the video where their great CRM is highlight, just the training they received didn't account for this situation. I just hope an incident like this doesn't lose someone their job, I don't know this industry well so I don't know the answer.
@BrandonTheWarriorPrince
@BrandonTheWarriorPrince 5 ヶ月 前
​@@rustledjimmz8967no they will not loose there job I'm Cabin Crew in the USA lol
@kukuc96
@kukuc96 4 ヶ月 前
Yeah, this TOGA button behaviour is quite weird to have. An inconsistency like that can very easily lead to a situation like this where you expect an action to have a certain outcome (pressing the TOGA button->engines go to full thrust), because in all training zou ever did that's what happens.
@truongkimson
@truongkimson 4 ヶ月 前
@@rustledjimmz8967the captain was a UAE national so of course he didn’t get fired. The crew on Emirates 407 in 2009 wasn’t as lucky and got fired.
@peterj5751
@peterj5751 3 ヶ月 前
@@kukuc96 I agree. I don’t understand why you would the plane’s computers not to apply the pre-determined and programmed climb out speed on the auto throttle when the TOGA button is pressed all the time. It is hardly unprecedented for a plane to briefly touch the ground and still go around inconsistent behaviour by the automation just adds to the pilot workload at a time when they are already busy.
@Daynja1
@Daynja1 年 前
A few years ago I watched a video titled "Who Destroyed Three Mile Island?" and it really changed my perspective on how we blame people for accidents. In this Emirates accident, like many others, it is very easy to just blame it on pilot error, but that does nothing. People will always make mistakes. It's much more important to determine why they made that mistake to prevent it in the future.
@TimesWithJames
@TimesWithJames 年 前
Fortunately the ethos in aviation (the the level in which I fly - UK GA - as I document on my channel 😉) is to not 'blame' but to 'learn'. Indeed, if we never learn from an incident, we can never improve systems to negate similar scenarios in the future, thus saving many more lives. Alone, this is why aviation is almost the safest way to travel today.
@kony2023
@kony2023 年 前
Like the Japanese rail disaster where the driver was going too quick. It was actually attributed to the toxic culture of being on time and being punished if you were behind.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 年 前
Exactly, i started working for a company that is very heavy on blaming and sacking people for their mistakes, below management. So Ive tried teaching them how there is a root cause for errors and mistakes, but idiots. We cant change the world and we cant fix stupid, unfortunetly stupid exists in all levels of business from aviation to goverment.
@sanjkarn
@sanjkarn 年 前
P lell I’ll pp😊😊long 😊 ppp
@sanjkarn
@sanjkarn 年 前
😊 plplp I’m pll I’ll l
@bluesfun
@bluesfun 年 前
7 emergency exits out of 10 cannot be used and the cabin crew managed to save EVERYONE on board?! This is more than incredible! Amazing job.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 年 前
Indeed.
@takers786
@takers786 年 前
Not to mention dealing with a bunch of annoying Indian people grabbing their hand luggage .
@user-nx9eq2wq7t
@user-nx9eq2wq7t 年 前
Everyone*
@danielabackstrom
@danielabackstrom 年 前
If I remember correctly, a firefighter died though 😔
@elkeospert9188
@elkeospert9188 年 前
Even more incredible as the remaining 3 exits were all in the rear of the aircraft.
@Alice-ui9oy
@Alice-ui9oy 年 前
When you have a dozen buttons to press in a short period of time, and your training has given you the impression that these buttons always work, I really don't think it's the pilots fault at all here when one of the buttons doesn't work as expected. Even if they perhaps could have verified it. Heroic effort by the captain and crew member combing through a smoke filled cabin looking for passengers left behind.
@lbowsk
@lbowsk 8 ヶ月 前
They had one button to push, and two power levers. They only did the first one. Airplanes will not fly uphill at idle thrust. That's pretty basic. You want to go around? You need to add thrust. These planes have been successfully flying Go-Arounds for almost 40 years. Why did THIS crash happen? Because they neglected to add power.
@tlangdon12
@tlangdon12 7 ヶ月 前
I think that the captain was deficient in assuming that the autothrottle would always work. Watch enough Mentour Pilot videos and you realise that many of the systems have various points at which they are inhibited and many reasons why they might fail. The operation of any button, but especially a critical one such as the TOGA buttons on the throttles, needs to be verified by someone.
@raerohan4241
@raerohan4241 6 ヶ月 前
​@@tlangdon12 Mentour did a whole section of the video on how it was entirely plausible for pilots with their training to not know about the inhibition. And plane systems are so complex that you cannot safely assume that a system that reacts a certain way in one situation will also react that way in other situations.
@mgmmj6664
@mgmmj6664 ヶ月 前
​@lbowsk yeah you go ahead and make a video and we will see how wrong you are lmao
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 25 日 前
@@lbowsk: Yes they failed, it’s that simple.
@Mallu_pilot
@Mallu_pilot 年 前
I was a passenger who Escaped This accident Unharmed.Its a pleasure to Know what Happened that day Thankyou Peter❤️ Love From India
@sureshmukhi2316
@sureshmukhi2316 年 前
Wow, you are blessed!
@leelipscomb9454
@leelipscomb9454 年 前
“‘
@misterhamez
@misterhamez 年 前
did you grab your bag?
@Mallu_pilot
@Mallu_pilot 年 前
@@misterhamez i can only grab my laptop. The rest is lost☹️
@Syverstrate
@Syverstrate 年 前
Hey, atleast you're alive mate. Material things can be replaced, but your life can't.
@tmanepic
@tmanepic 10 ヶ月 前
What stood out to me was the fact that the pilot stayed on board to make sure everyone had made it out safe. What a class act
@JohnBedson
@JohnBedson 9 ヶ月 前
That's his job. He should not have crashed the pane needlessly. I hope they fired him.
@ashton8289
@ashton8289 7 ヶ月 前
@@JohnBedsondid you even watch the video?
@extremebeastreaction6245
@extremebeastreaction6245 7 ヶ月 前
@@JohnBedsonbro Pilots don’t just crash on purpose bruh
@raerohan4241
@raerohan4241 6 ヶ月 前
​@@JohnBedson Ah yes, the pilot felt the need to crash the plane and proceeded to do so. Are you even hearing yourself?
@rustledjimmz8967
@rustledjimmz8967 5 ヶ月 前
@@JohnBedson Seemed like he was a very good pilot, just was not trained for the situation.
@po1ly414
@po1ly414 9 ヶ月 前
You’ve gotta feel for the crew here, they really seemed diligent and ontop of things and just made one tragic mistake. Shows just how small the margin of error is between normal flying and disaster
@kelly2631
@kelly2631 3 ヶ月 前
It's kind of interesting how the spoilers were able to detect that the aircraft was no longer on the ground and were able to retract, but the TOGA button won't deliver TOGA power It's actually kind of concerning, really. If there is one button that should not be able to be inhibited, it should be the TOGA button.
@thriftyoutdoorsman7860
@thriftyoutdoorsman7860 3 ヶ月 前
I would be the first crew member sliding down like weeeee!
@bret9741
@bret9741 年 前
I hope these pilots are still flying. I believe they were a professional crew that would have learned from this accident.
@t-banan
@t-banan 14 日 前
I hope not dumbass pilots that cant even realize something as simple as having no thrust shouldn't be anywhere near an airplane
@polarberri
@polarberri 年 前
My heart sank when he said that they didn't even have 6 seconds for the engines to gain power. So glad everyone on board made it. Sorry for the loss of the brave firefighter; emergency workers truly do unbelievable work.
@AndrewSteitz
@AndrewSteitz 年 前
Reading someone else’s comment, it dawned on me how the difference in your tone of voice compared to TV series’s narrators makes such a huge difference. You are calm and soothing, educating people and helping to calm people’s nerves. The TV shows use suspense to get you to stay through the next commercial break, thereby raising the anxiety level of already nervous fliers. Well done! Yet one more reason I love this channel.
@98of99
@98of99 年 前
That’s why TV is dying and safe, educational streaming platforms are thriving. We vote with our subs, not biased Nielsen ratings.
@berits.2346
@berits.2346 年 前
Which is one of the readons I don't watch tv anymore. For decades.
@stephenhosking7384
@stephenhosking7384 年 前
"The TV shows use suspense to get you to stay through the next commercial break, ", with 20 minutes of commercials in the last 30 minutes of the show. I've learned to be not hooked in by the first 20 minutes add-free.
@i-love-space390
@i-love-space390 年 前
@@stephenhosking7384 And after every commercial break they repeat almost 2 minutes of show in case your tiny short attention span can't remember what happened, and padding a 30 minute show into 40 minutes plus 20 minutes of commercials. Even Pluto TV, which has the most commercials of any service, has less commercials than cable or airwave TV.
@momchilandonov
@momchilandonov 年 前
Who are those "already nervous fliers"? :D
@clifflong1203
@clifflong1203 7 ヶ月 前
This is one clearly pointing at training deficiencies by the company and not pilot error. These two young men did what 99.9% of any pilots would do given the circumstances. Kudos to the entire crew for leaving no man behind!💪🙏
@armin3057
@armin3057 5 ヶ月 前
how can we prevent this in the future?I dont get this. not everyone can be a genius pilot and figuring out everything .
@louish2037
@louish2037 2 ヶ月 前
Lol, the gear actually already touched two times and they didn’t notice it. They were stupid enough to not notice throttles were completely idle and didn’t pay any attention that the speed was dropping dangerous low during a steep climb. Automation or not paying attention to speed when you’re trying to climb from a low attitude should literally be basic instinct to a pilot or anyone trying to fly a plane, yet this videos argues that automation has made them forget to do so. It’s akin to saying that if you have a good-enough calculator then you don’t need to know why 1+1=2, it was down to the basic instincts and in this case the pilots didn’t have any. It’s actually a whole reflection of their thinking processes and the style of problem-solving they adapt, many flight documentaries have shown how younger pilots in this era often overly-rely on automation and instead have lost more basic skills such as just observing the aircraft and watching the instruments, so its clear dilemmas like this is really only unique to younger pilots. Don’t pretend to sound smart and say “99.9% of any pilots” would have done the same because they wouldn’t have, these pilots were “young “ and failed to notice something overly-simplistic because of over-reliance on automation. Your comment just sounds dumb lol Edit: And BTW, the pilots weren’t even young?? They were 34 and 37 lol
@ivanpetrenko3393
@ivanpetrenko3393 26 日 前
​​@@louish2037it's easy for you to say watching the video. But from inside the cockpit there were no visual or audible indication notifying pilots of sligh runway touch.
@lbowsk
@lbowsk 25 日 前
The plane has been flying for almost 40 years. Thousands of low level Go Arounds have been flown over that span. 99.99999 percent of them were successfully flown. No one crashed.
@lbowsk
@lbowsk 19 日 前
Actually, you have it backward. 99.999999 percent of B777 pilots have actually done Go-Arounds correctly and have not crashed since the plane was introduced in 1990. That's a LOT of Go-Arounds.
@gavmansworkshop5624
@gavmansworkshop5624 年 前
I salute both pilots and crew, I have a minute's silence for that brave firefighter 🙏
@fryfry377
@fryfry377 年 前
Thank you for reiterating how important it is to investigate possible mistakes, not in the pursuit of assigning blame, but to correct those mistakes in the future.
@andersmalmgren6528
@andersmalmgren6528 年 前
As a system architect and software engineer I sense a bit of bad design here. When the system put the engines in idle because of the partial touchdown it should have sent s warning of some sort. Sound, light, haptic, or all of above. Som alltid, bra berättat av dig :)
@danelen
@danelen 年 前
I am a total lay person on this topic but your comment is what my impression was as well. Seems like once the pilot hit the TOGA buttons it should have warned him of the auto thrust and perhaps even disengage it altogether so he has thrust control back? In any case, it seems you can easily say what the pilot could have done to prevent this after the fact but it seems unreasonable to have expected him to have thought of that given his training and how much was happening in the seconds he had to respond.
@MGSLurmey
@MGSLurmey 年 前
@@danelen What I'm struggling to understand is why Boeing would make the auto throttle disable the TO/GA buttons at low altitude, knowing full-well that a go around is extremely time sensitive and a high workload situation. If the pilot hits full throttle, it should go to full throttle, no questions asked. It feels like less a safety mechanism and more a sign of distrust in pilots. There is no good reason that I can think of to restrict the TO/GA buttons when a pilot can just as easily force the thrust levers to TO/GA at any stage of flight manually. It only serves to allow an error such as the one highlighted in this case, that being the thrust not being applied in a scenario wherein the pilot is used to using auto throttle exclusively. If the buttons cannot be trusted to do their expected job, they should simply not exist. TO/GA buttons should initiate TO/GA thrust, no exceptions.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 年 前
Exactly if you hit the go button it shouls say GO GO gO or TOGa TOgA Toga and work. If anyones at fault its ignorant Boeing.
@edmondhung6097
@edmondhung6097 年 前
@@MGSLurmey Maybe this is to avoid accidentally trigger TOGA when set reverse thrust? Idk, I’m haven’t seen a real thing. I think it will be too much information if it report everything in touch down. But a rejected order, like TOGA, deserves a callout warning.
@komet5420
@komet5420 年 前
in general, if a MISSION CRITICAL button is inhibited/does nothing, the safest design would be to make it physically IMMOVABLE. or at the very least, issue a loud warning that the intended operation has no effect.
@JustMe-pt1xd
@JustMe-pt1xd 11 ヶ月 前
I have to say that I love the fact that you give the meaning and explanation of all the technical abbreviations you use. When I hear a word and I say to myself: "I must google this" but you instantly give the meaning. Thank you. It makes follow up easier.
@leonnilein
@leonnilein 年 前
Coming from a software development perspective I find it interesting that there is no feedback to the users (in this case the pilots) when they press a button that is inhibited. Especially such a critical button. Could be a callout like "inhibited" or a buzzer sound or whatever. I think such a feature could have gotten the pilots attention and prevented the accident from happening. At least it would insert another slice into the Swiss cheese.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 年 前
That’s was actually similar to the feedback of the final report as well.
@brunoais
@brunoais 年 前
I strongly agree with you. I was going to write about the same in a comment but you ended up writing it yourself
@MarsJenkar
@MarsJenkar 年 前
As someone who works in quality assurance, I agree. That there wasn't sensory feedback about the TO/GA switch being inhibited was very significant, and if I'd encountered something like that in testing a system like this, I'd have marked it as a potentially critical failure, or at least a very significant failure. Glad to hear that this was addressed in the final report.
@VosperCDN
@VosperCDN 年 前
That would make sense, as even my bog standard, non-critical home computer bleeps or chirps when I click a button that doesn't then activate.
@jetporter
@jetporter 年 前
What an excellent idea. Usually the levers move when the button is pushed. Personally, on aircraft equipped with autothrottle, I'm already pushing the levers as I press the buttons. But I note this captain had flown almost his entire career with this company, who mandated 100% autothrottle use. He was therefore probably 100% expecting the levers to do their thing. Some kind of haptic or aural feedback would be very useful if people insist on flying aeroplanes lime this.
@douglaswilkinson5700
@douglaswilkinson5700 4 ヶ月 前
The Seabreeze Effect happens in Los Angeles when the high desert heats up in spring causing Gray May & June Gloom.
@nickvrsnm
@nickvrsnm 年 前
As a former Cabin Crew member myself I can safely say that cabin crew are the most under-appreciated and under-valued on the planet relative to their true worth and capabilities. We are all trained to evacuate and capable of evacuating any aircraft of any size within 90 seconds of an evacuation order from the flight deck. I once had to halt our flight on the threshold of the runway because I saw the pax facing me in my jumpseat was having a stroke, that man survived and recovered to live again. Yet the pax in 3C who could see and hear the entire medical emergency unfold just 2 rows in front of him had the fucking audacity to complain to me (when I was securing the cabin for the 2nd time that night) that he was going to be late for his dinner reservation, luckily for me he had undone his seat belt while we were waiting for the paramedics to tend to the man that was having the stroke and all I needed to say to him was "sir please fasten your seat belt for departure, as I'm sure you can appreciate, the other passengers onboard are anxious to depart by now and won't appreciate any undue delays" was worth the look on that posh asshole's face to have said it as nice as I did coz he didn't know how to respond and didn't open his mouth for the entirety of the flight after that, RESULT 🎉🎉🙈🙈😂😂😂
@sharoncassell5273
@sharoncassell5273 5 ヶ月 前
Yeah. Way to go. Good thing you contained your emotions & maintained your composure. Kudos. We appreciate you guys more than you know. My cousin was a stewardess and retired from American airlines before 2000.
@user-vz4dr4ke8d
@user-vz4dr4ke8d 年 前
My dad works at Emirates and a vividly remember that day. Was a long day at the office for him! Also, kudos to you for using the ACTUAL emirates boarding theme at 1.05
@howebrad4601
@howebrad4601 年 前
Your narration had me spellbound. Amazing
@johnt6022
@johnt6022 年 前
You speak so well and the best part is that most of us with no aviation knowledge, understand you
@LizCaitlin
@LizCaitlin 年 前
I'm always so impressed by flight/cabin crew. They all work so hard to get it right. And when things can go so wrong in a just a few seconds, the margin for error is really a knife edge.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 年 前
It is!
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 年 前
I think you'd have to have been there to know how the evacuation went.
@TBSSPILOTviews
@TBSSPILOTviews 年 前
Elizabeth….that is so true. Training to influence muscle memory and mental state responses to a potential situation changes from seconds to unknown…hopefully we did the right response choice, and there was time for mechanical performance to take effect. This was rather routine until the shear started the sequence. I guess the thing to take away from this is, confirmation of performance of inputs made, despite the automation. As a helicopter guy, I just learned something about the landing system on this aircraft, that normally given enough altitude could have made it a good day…maybe an (audio) alert could be added…perception dictates what we do, and then there is what is expected from the machine, and sometimes it doesn’t match up. I feel for the crew here, but this accident will help others. 🧐🙏🏼
@SinergiaAlUnisono
@SinergiaAlUnisono 年 前
I wonder what would have happened if they were flying with other aircrafts instead ? and how "fair" it is to statistically considered it as a B777 aircraft accident..
@andersnilssondvm
@andersnilssondvm 年 前
Isnt that weird though? That commercial airplanes developed from trillions of dollars are just barely clearing a knifes edge margin of error?
@yourfriend5144
@yourfriend5144 2 日 前
Rip fire fighter😢 When you said only the captain and a senior crew member are left onboard to see if someone is still in the plane, that statement sent shivers down my spine. A true captain❤
@Ira88881
@Ira88881 11 ヶ月 前
I know nothing about aviation…I’m just barely interested in it… But this guy is so fantastic, I can’t stop watching his stuff. He makes a simple bolt holding down a seat sound FASCINATING.
@RavenMobile
@RavenMobile 27 日 前
Literally! I just watched one of his videos yesterday where a seat came unbolted... and I was glued to my seat listening.
@Benjammin43
@Benjammin43 年 前
as I pilot i’m really thankful for these videos and the pilot community as a whole for sharing accidents and investigation information as I think it can benefit each and every one of us
@BrandonTheWarriorPrince
@BrandonTheWarriorPrince 5 ヶ月 前
I'm a cabin crew member I watch from that prospective
@2201Duluth
@2201Duluth 年 前
what i like the most about your narrations is that you don’t talk down to people who have very limited knowledge of what you discuss. You are an excellent speaker as well
@Aleksandar11351
@Aleksandar11351 年 前
@Mentour Pilot I'm not in aviation industry. My greatest desire as young boy was to become a pilot but 30 years ago it was a struggling period in country I come from. I've found your channel recently and every morning while i'm drinking my coffee, preparing for work, I watch one of your videos. The way you are presenting incidents, accidents, procedures and news on both of your channels is exceptional! I guess that cadets you are working with are lucky to have such a great mentor. Keep up the excellent work! Greetings from Serbia P.S. I'm using comments section in latest video just to send you this message.
@ellicel
@ellicel 年 前
I think there’s a common perception that accidents termed “pilot error” means that the pilots were incompetent or negligent, somehow irresponsible, and should never be allowed to fly. While we’ve certainly seen a few analysis videos on this channel where pilots were completely unprofessional, I think the majority really emphasize there’s always more to the story. In this case, although of course unfortunate and tragic, I can understand how the accident happened and can empathize. My heart goes out to the family of the firefighter and all others who were hurt. I’m sure none feel this more keenly than those officers who were responsible for the aircraft and passengers that day. Hopefully this report will help to keep others safe.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 年 前
Absolutely. Well said!
@dennis2376
@dennis2376 年 前
Maybe the investigators should reserve the the term "pilot error" to when there is gross mismanagement by the pilot and have another phrase for cases like this. 🤔
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 年 前
@@dennis2376 It's a bit like "the landing gear failed" ... maintenance? design? handling during the incident? objects on the runway? ... or the diagnosis of "organ failure" in a patient. There's always more to the picture.
@obelic71
@obelic71 年 前
@@dennis2376 System error would be more suited in this case. Sadly that fire fighter lost his life saving those souls onboard.
@jtc1964x
@jtc1964x 年 前
This is 100% PILOT ERROR! They didn't aviate, they didn't watch their own speed. They should never fly again
@philipvandoorn6470
@philipvandoorn6470 年 前
Love your video's, Petter. I am a ships Captain, Master Mariner as we call it, and find your attention to CRM very instructive. Even through we move in 2 dimensions and you do in 3 dimensions, we have to deal with a very large amount of untrained ship' officers that we encounter constantly. So trained officers will react and operate predictably, while the majority unfortunately does absolutely not. We are constantly required to use BRM, bridge resource management, to deal with complicated situations that would not be there if everyone had followed the proper training. Thanks for your ' absolutely fantastic' insights. I am a better ship' captain because of it.
@uzukiltd.4133
@uzukiltd.4133 11 ヶ月 前
It's amazing how understandable and comprehensive these videos are!
@randylade501
@randylade501 7 ヶ月 前
im an aircraft mechanic for a major airline (20+ years). Your knowledge of aircraft systems is very helpful.. Keep up the good work, Thanks
@donc9751
@donc9751 年 前
Thank you Mentour Pilot! You do an absolutely amazing job explaining in perfect detail every aspect of what has happened during these aviation incidents !!!
@teim2002
@teim2002 年 前
This is a deep analysis, and always reminds me of the power of coordination and the effects of the failed systems.
@trouty7947
@trouty7947 年 前
The more I watch of your videos the more I'm impressed by *just how much* stuff a pilot of an airliner needs to know and do to fly safely. And all within seconds as well sometimes.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 年 前
Yes.
@CaptainSteve777
@CaptainSteve777 年 前
@@NicolaW72 True. Piloting is challenging. Unfortunately, the airlines no longer want to hire the best pilots. They only want to fill their woke race and gender quotas. Danger ahead.
@gabsgames90s
@gabsgames90s 年 前
Thanks for all of the effort you put into these videos. They've been a fantastic source of education since you take the time to explain a lot of interesting details about the way certain systems on these aircraft work. I've been going through a lot of these lately for both entertainment and learning. I also really appreciate that you present the information facts first without manufactured drama, but are still sensitive to loss of life and injuries in the accidents.
@RavenMobile
@RavenMobile 27 日 前
Rest In Peace to the firefighter, and condolences to those he left behind. Firefighters are an amazing breed, and have my utmost respect and admiration. Impressive aircraft design that nobody died from the crash landing.
@mattr7274
@mattr7274 年 前
I’ve watched shows like this before but watching you with your expert commentary makes these so much more interesting and educational. Thank you so much for being here and teaching me something new.
@___DRIP___
@___DRIP___ 年 前
I’m so glad I was recommended this channel. It’s so much better than those air disaster shows that used to be on Discovery channel. Great use of MSFS too. Loved this
@jaimeroman2406
@jaimeroman2406 年 前
Amazing video and analysis. I’m not a pilot I simply love travel. The extent of knowledge and training and expertise involved in your profession is amazing and awesome. Your dedication is absolutely incredible. I just love it. Thank you.
@giomar89
@giomar89 年 前
It's good that the final report brought up elements that emphasised that the pilots acted according to their training. I can't imagine how guilty they would have felt otherwise. (before anybody comes to tell me they should have monitored thrust better, yes, of course they should. We all should perform perfectly in our jobs. Unfortunately, being human is kinda of a handicap for that, as this video illustrates by pointing out how limited our attention is, how easily we rely on technology and automatisation, and how easily training can makes us slightly inflexible)
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 年 前
Exactly my point 💕
@brunoais
@brunoais 年 前
Couldn't have told that better myself!
@143DREWID
@143DREWID 年 前
Now people walk/run/bike on the wrong side of the road, do not look before crossing, and have phone in face. Pretty sure the training may be absent for the underlings ! ;-)
@GoCoyote
@GoCoyote 年 前
Exactly! Even without any negligent actions, or known negligent actions, we will all make mistakes based on assumptions. Many years ago I was told by a woman I met at a trade show, who claimed to be a grandchild of the engineer who created the adages that we call "Murphys Laws," that the reason he created them was to help prevent engineering mistakes by assuming things would always go wrong if they can, rather than assume that all of your careful systems would work or function properly in all situations. This accident shows what can happen when we find out the "something" that went wrong.
@judyfrancis4515
@judyfrancis4515 年 前
I thought this comment was very well-worded, capturing an unfortunate, yet unavoidable, truth. Btw, it's simply "automation".
@Arbutuscoveretreat
@Arbutuscoveretreat 年 前
You are the best at giving insight into aircraft accidents. Nice job as always! 👌
@qaiyumansari4564
@qaiyumansari4564 年 前
Emirates training has always remained robust. And also the ultimate reaction of the ground crew at Dubai International Airport is truly amazing 👏 👌 🇦🇪❤
@malimom6011
@malimom6011 年 前
I Love your videos. I am a retired Medical Technologist/ Clinical Pathologist. I love math, physics, science, lifetime learning. I will never become a pilot, but this really teaches me about your profession, physics, & weather. Keeps my mind sharp. Thank you very much!!!! I look forward to each new video!!! Also, love you sitting with your dogs in the past.
@gooner72
@gooner72 ヶ月 前
The opening animation with frontal shots of the triple 7 do her justice, it shows how beautiful she really is..... she's my favourite aircraft to fly on.
@shdon
@shdon 年 前
So incredibly sad that the firefighter died. I have tremendous respect for first responders and others who put their own lives on the line to help others. When tragedy strikes, may they rest in peace and their sacrifices be honoured and remembered.
@helenafranzen9828
@helenafranzen9828 年 前
I really like the no-blame culture in aviation industry. Pilots actually did everything right due to their training, so when something happens very quickly that is out of the ordinary its easy to forget details and make mistakes. Big shout out to the professionalism of the cabin crew and rest in peace to the unfortunate firefighter that lost his life. Dangerous job that is not appreciated as much as it should be.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 年 前
Yes, indeed.
@CieloNotturno86
@CieloNotturno86 年 前
More industries should be like that!
@CaptainSteve777
@CaptainSteve777 年 前
I'm a career pilot including captain on the B777 (the type in this crash). They didn't do everything right. The number one rule is don't crash the airplane. They failed at the most basic level. The captain was young and inexperienced. I think that played a part.
@CaptainSteve777
@CaptainSteve777 年 前
​@@opinionatedopiner ​ Your comment shows how little you know. Piloting 101 requires that every time a pilot selects a change in position of a switch or control, the pilot must confirm that the desired action took place. ALWAYS. They didn't do that. That is pilot error. But what do I know other than being one of the most experienced pilots on the planet with 45 years and 25,000 hours of flight time. What are your credentials? Maybe you can teach us all something.
@LR-yu3mx
@LR-yu3mx 年 前
An air-hostess on one of her first flights, is my daughter-in-law's Sister. All the hostesses and staff were extremely brave, and praised.
@flyingpaws7959
@flyingpaws7959 年 前
And here I am at 6:40 am finding myself watching plane videos… why does this always happen In all seriousness, great video! The editing is very well-done, you and your team did an amazing job!!!
@litchfiedr
@litchfiedr 年 前
Reliance on autopilot seems stronger with Emirates.. not checking for themselves that things are happening like they should do. Great work by the cabin crew
@curm1778
@curm1778 年 前
Every time I see one of these videos there is an increase in my flying comfort. Each takeoff and landing is backed by the knowledge gained from the tragic outcomes covered. Knowing that, I am a far more comfortable flyer than I might have otherwise been.
@ryaaaaanwhat4072
@ryaaaaanwhat4072 11 ヶ月 前
Beautiful flawless explanation. Even someone that has zero knowledge about aviation can completely understand the whole scenario and possibly learn so much. Please guys!!!!! in case of emergency leave your personal items behind since they can cause lives to be lost.
@markb.1259
@markb.1259 年 前
THE MOST DETAILED aviation stories on JPvid!!! Very well done!!!
@StealthFB22
@StealthFB22 年 前
I WILL NEVER understand why people believe their carry on bags are more important than the lives of others!
@scottburling4857
@scottburling4857 年 前
Very unlikely it is a conscious decision. Fairly well known that in high pressure, high stress situations people will fall back into routine (hence in sport, it is important to always train how you would compete in high stress situations). Very hard to break habits and do something new in a high pressure situation. Sadly this extends to disembarking planes.
@8draco8
@8draco8 年 前
IMHO hand luggage compartments should be automatically locked when seat belt light is on
@spiderzvow1
@spiderzvow1 年 前
humans are stupid overgrown monkeys. its that simple. we think we are superior to other animals until stress kicks in and we go full primal
@josephvanname3377
@josephvanname3377 年 前
The solution to this problem is for airlines to charge a hefty fee for clogging the exits with their stupid bags.
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 年 前
@@josephvanname3377 Charge passengers *after* an accident? That's going to be interesting!
@sarahdon3165
@sarahdon3165 年 前
Gotta say your channel is my favourite for aviation. Your explanation of how the accident occurred is second to none . Thank you so much 😊 xx
@domenicdevries4851
@domenicdevries4851 29 日 前
I love flying that CS 777 with the Emirates livery in MSFS. It just looks really good and flies better than smaller planes
@ratboygenius
@ratboygenius 年 前
I'm not a pilot, but I am fascinated with aviation. I love your videos because you are a great story teller.
@coreyandnathanielchartier3749
Auto throttles should not be active at any critical flight stage. Two pilots not realizing that they were at idle, with gauges, aural clues, seat of the pants feeling for acceleration, and two levers with a foot of travel pulled all the way back. A student pilot with 5 hours of training likely would have recognized this condition, but fixation on all the lights and buzzers took the pilots' focus away from 'pitch, power, trim'. Great video again, Petter.
@siemniak
@siemniak 年 前
Because student pilot with 5 hours of experience does not rely on a computer
@esecallum
@esecallum 年 前
Have you noticed airspeed/height/engine thrust displays are well hidden/obscured and not in line of sight?
@indiebekonn
@indiebekonn 年 前
@@siemniak that’s the point?
@zanea6820
@zanea6820 年 前
Thank you for these new type of accidents videos without the thumbnails with a stupid face and also thanks for not doing all the crazy editing with your face and reaction things you did back in the day. This is exactly the content we want, factual, precise, objective with an immense level of detail and explaination from an engineering and pilot point of view. Also great visuals and great storytelling. It feels serious and mature just how these videos should be
@Stewi1014
@Stewi1014 年 前
One of the biggest things I've learned from your channel is that pilots are humans and our safety doesn't just come from them. It comes from an entire industry which, among many things, understands pilots are human and works around these unavoidable realities. I really truly feel so safe when flying from everything I've learned - not just understanding the statistics, but really feeling and taking to heart the plethora of steps taken for every contingency.
@I_AM_HYDRAA
@I_AM_HYDRAA 年 前
For me it is astounding the number of things that can go wrong. Before it goes terribly wrong
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 年 前
Indeed.
@PetrPospisil-eq7rt
@PetrPospisil-eq7rt 年 前
Great job you are doing. I saw several of these videos and some of them left me in a big surprise. One small thing about this episode. The trust levers move in a opposite direction to the situation you are describing
@andreaskallien1251
@andreaskallien1251 年 前
It is always a pleasure to watch your very informative and well investigated aviation accidents.
@nolimitrc1
@nolimitrc1 9 ヶ月 前
Rip Jassim what a hero and took his job to heart!
@imchrisme5514
@imchrisme5514 10 ヶ月 前
This channel has made me an armchair pilot, never flown anything in my life yet I scream at the videos “pull up” and advise the pilots to contact the tower. It’s a great channel 😅
@landofahhs_1
@landofahhs_1 年 前
Thank you...this video clearly shows that the importance of placing blame is well overpowered by the minor details that, when examined by themselves, increased the chances of failure.
@Tina06019
@Tina06019 年 前
It is amazing that there was only one fatality - may the firefighter RIP. This is an unrelated thought, but it’s hard for me to think of 120 F as being compatible with human life, let alone with actually working to fight a fire. I would think I had stepped out into Hell itself.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 年 前
It’s pretty hot, yes
@euphan123
@euphan123 年 前
Correction, my underwear was the second casualty
@0xf7c8
@0xf7c8 年 前
@@euphan123 you were there?
@Dan-oj4iq
@Dan-oj4iq 年 前
@@0xf7c8 No s/he wasn't there. It's just that no matter the subject or video (wether something like this or any other subject on the face of the earth) someone always has to comment on their personal bowl movements. It never fails. This always remind us as to why the average age of viewers is so low. P.S. I was in error suggesting that this comment could have come from a woman. Women, no matter their character, never make comments like this. This is strictly a male phenomenon.
@emersongarcia7128
@emersongarcia7128 年 前
When I was in Dubai it only got hot at 46c. BTW I'm from an area where it snows.
@danielelindsey2213
@danielelindsey2213 4 ヶ月 前
Love these videos despite my lack of flight knowledge. An idea I have formed from watching many MP videos is that accidents/incidents often seem to be connected with the switch from the 2 different towers and the subsequent break in the flow of communication.
@coma13794
@coma13794 年 前
What an incredible piece. The blend of experience, visuals, analysis and lack of watering-down for mass consumption is just jaw-dropping. You're doing amazing work for the aviation community and the wider community, too. As someone who has transitioned from very manual aircraft to more automated aircraft (in the sim at least...my IRL flying is still in simple aircraft), I can quickly see how the automation is a blessing and a curse. Any pilot flying an aircraft with minimal automation would never forget to add power in a go-around. It's problematic, IMO, that there is SO much reliance on automation when there are design elements (flaws?) that are not necessarily 100% understood by the crews. This "edge case" caused the pilots to think the power had been added when it wasn't. Had there not been so much reliance on the automation for such a fundamental operation (adding power for a go-around), this would not have happened. This is also one of the most interesting cases of windshear I've seen where it was subtle enough to have caused the issue to begin with, and then affect the crew's perception of what was happening (ie, gave them reason to think they HAD power, and that the lack of acceleration was windshear-related when it was, in fact, because the engines were still at idle). It's also a great reminder that when the chips are down, a 5 different instruments and ambient queues can tell you one thing, but tunnel vision kicks in and human have the potential to miss ALL of them, across two different crew members. I'm not an automation expert, but I wonder if rather than a TOGA button, simply detecting the thrust levers being advanced to a high setting could also be a trigger for the go-around mode (and engagement of auto throttle). This way, crews would ROUTINELY be advancing the thrust levers, in which case, even if the ATS doesn't kick in (assuming no changes in the current ATS logic), then at least power would've been added at the it was intended, REGARDLESS of ATS kicking in or not. TL;DR: make the go-around procedure use a technique that mitigates the possibility of the ATS not kicking in.
@charlesmadisonrhea
@charlesmadisonrhea 年 前
Could swear I saw a Mentour Pilot flying that rig….. WOW - very dramatic video. So glad the passengers safely exited. Firefighter’s death was sad. Your production techniques put us right there at the action. Best airplane channel out there!
@dodich81
@dodich81 年 前
You are for real the easiest person to listen explaining anything. Hope you’ll train as many pilots possible cuz that would be a great thing for everyone involved in flying one way or another. This summer I met one of your students with whom you actually have video in your beginings… he is of course Pilot now,great simple Welsh guy and he just confirmed what I allready knew; you are really Great Great Mentor we all need more people like you in all types and directions of education at every level. Cheers from Croatia
@aravindmaddini6348
@aravindmaddini6348 年 前
I watched one video and I watched the whole playlist in three days back to back loved it ....... Getting emotionally right .....VFX very good ...story telling amazing ....facts to the point .....captain and FO perspective to the point ....... Especially the management of decision making of CRM OF TWO MINUTES into 20 minutes like algorithm decision is marvelous . Keep up captain !!
@dalebrown322
@dalebrown322 年 前
I am a long retired airline pilot and I thought this was one of the best analysis of a crash that I have seen. For perspective I started airline flying as a F/O on the Lockheed Constellation and retired as a Captain on the B-757 so I flew with no autopilot to the full autoland systems. I believe that too much emphasis is placed on the auto systems today and there is just not enough "hands on" flying. In this case the Captain hit the TOGA switches and just assumed that the autothrottles were working. When I was flying an Air Florida plane took off from Washington National in snow and freezing rain without turning on the engine anti-ice and didn't push the throttles forward beyond the EPR limits, which were incorrect due to the ice, and crashed into the Potomac River. I always felt that if I was ever in that type of situation I would break the throttles pushing them forward before I hit the ground. For this reason I never hit the TOGA switches without following the throttles with my hand and if they weren't moving fast enough I helped them out. The automatic systems of today are fantastic and have made flying even safer but they don't replace the pilot they should just enhance the pilot's abilities.
@CaptainSteve777
@CaptainSteve777 年 前
Good stuff. Re: "For this reason, I never hit the TOGA switches without following the throttles with my hand and if they weren't moving fast enough I helped them out." I just retired as a B777 captain. My technique was the same as yours. Hard to imagine anyone not doing that, but here we are. Cheers
@FlyingDoctor60
@FlyingDoctor60 年 前
Glad to read that seasoned line pilots do what I, as a private pilot, see myself doing: when you need thrust for a go-around, don’t just push a button….ADD THRUST! Re training, I think it would be beneficial to have new pilots learn to fly the sim manually in every flight regime from takeoff to touchdown first, then add in automation one system at a time. These are, after all, just great big airplanes that obey the same laws of physics as little ones. The nose controls the airspeed, thrust controls rate of climb, and every pilot should be capable of safely flying them manually before being allowed to use automation.
@Milesco
@Milesco 年 前
I'm just a layperson, so forgive my ignorance, but I can't help but wonder what is the point of a TO/GA button, if not to immediately deliver full engine power?
@papapetad
@papapetad 年 前
I think the Potomac River crash has been covered on this channel. Sounds familiar and I seem to recall there even were some survivors...I'm a firm believer in old-school practical/pragmatic thinking. I appreciate wise use of good technology but the trend seems to be more and more contempt built into mindsets. Kinda scary to think a 30 something yo with that much flying experience would overlook something so critical due to habitual reliance on automation. Also, as some have mentioned, no clear warning upon pressing a button for a function that's been deactivated seems ridiculous. The amount of technology and thought that goes into these machines and nobody thought about THAT? Sounds to me like pragmatism is not only lacking in the cockpit but also in the design and engineering rooms. As technology becomes more impressive and complex, we also seem to be going backwards on so many levels.
@CaptainSteve777
@CaptainSteve777 年 前
@@papapetad 3 similarities as I see it between the 2 accidents. 1. They had not been trained properly for the procedure (training can never cover everything). 2. They were performing a procedure they had never done (takeoff in ice and very unlikely the B777 pilot had ever flown a very low go-around in real life). Neither 1 nor 2 should cause an accident. 3 is the big fail. They both commanded the airplane to do something but failed to monitor it to make sure it was doing what they wanted it to do. That is piloting 101. Getting step 3 wrong can/will cause a crash.
@martinko2110
@martinko2110 年 前
The work you´re doing is absolutely fantastic! Cant put a price tag on it, thank you
@markg7963
@markg7963 年 前
Amazing narrative Petter! Wow. I had not kept up with the aftermath of this accident. Explained perfectly.
@ehteshamsajed8244
@ehteshamsajed8244 年 前
Every time I watch these investigations, gives me a sense of respect to all the pilots and the cabin crews. I understand, how difficult it gets within seconds. Handling a large number of passengers with different mind sets- is one of the toughest jobs on earth.
@MakalaDoulos
@MakalaDoulos 5 ヶ月 前
I love the 757. I was a luggage handler in college. Looked beautiful!
@thomasmartin320
@thomasmartin320 年 前
I always really enjoy your accident investigation review videos! Its a very engaging and gripping story. Thank you!
@MohammedHisham737
@MohammedHisham737 11 ヶ月 前
Wonderful and amazing documentary representation! Great job captain!! Loved it!!!! Thanks for such an informative and your effort in gathering all the information about this so that you could put it up for us in this beautiful video!
@MohammedHisham737
@MohammedHisham737 11 ヶ月 前
And Im pretty sure that you are not gonna let all such mistakes indulge in your flights😉 safe flight captain!
@lonewolf5238
@lonewolf5238 7 ヶ月 前
You are amazing, sir! I cannot offer more praise for this channel and for your exemplary presentation. Although I am not in the aviation industry, I have learned much from you that I have applied in my personal and professional life. Thank you!!
@MrJeffreycauchi
@MrJeffreycauchi 年 前
Mate I love these air incidents videos, I'm hooked on them. Keep them coming my friend. Love from Malta 🇲🇹 ❤️
@southfloridarealestate2023
@southfloridarealestate2023 4 ヶ月 前
It is strange when such a disaster unfolds, and only one soul is lost due to a freak accident. I like your last comment, which states that assigning blame does not serve much, and learning from this or any mistake is do much more important than assigning blame. Vielen Dank Von Florida
@budm9982
@budm9982 年 前
I can't believe that more lives were not lost. I also can not imagine bunking out in full firefighting proximity suits in 120F temps. Wow.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 年 前
Yeah, the B777 is a sturdy machine!
@naughtiusmaximus830
@naughtiusmaximus830 年 前
Genetic transfer of camel genes. Nature has mysterious ways.
@sed5757
@sed5757 年 前
we're used to this kind of temperatures between June to September every year.
@donnarupert4926
@donnarupert4926 年 前
@@MentourPilot The Boeing 777 is my favorite. I worked for American Airlines from 2000-2001, 911 ended my career. I took a trip from JFK-CDG on a 777. It was glorious!!
@AndyPerry1972
@AndyPerry1972 年 前
It is very comforting that these incidents are extremely rare so that the cabin crew rarely need to follow their evacuation procedures but it is even more comforting that when it does happen, they do (or did here) a fantastic job. Team work at its best
@tiglu05
@tiglu05 年 前
Your clips are just so interesting but they are also educational for any light aircraft pilot such as myself. well done!
@conlethbyrne4809
@conlethbyrne4809 年 前
Favourite plane. Bought all models from PMDG on FSX. Great channel & another Favourite channels on JPvid Many Thanks, Captain
@sganzerlag
@sganzerlag 年 前
I think this is an incredibly well done analysis of an extremely controversial accident. Greatly enjoyed watching this video! Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
@xcifer
@xcifer 年 前
The quality of your videos keeps getting better and better! You're doing such an amazing job! WOW!
@giusynuno3468
@giusynuno3468 年 前
I flew with one of the Cabin Crew staff some time after this happened. I became an incredibly anxious passenger after a bad landing in Narita years ago and we were in the middle of a serious turbolence going out from Hong Kong. One of the crew noticed I was scared and came over to tell me that there was nothing to be afraid of because we had an hero Hostess on board. She came over to say hi briefly from her sector once things had calmed down and she was truly the image of serenity. I wish I could remember her name, I never knew the extent of the situation she was in until today. Thank you for these videos!! I discovered your Channel recently and it's really helping to recover from my flight anxiety😃
@cantfindmykeys
@cantfindmykeys 年 前
I was on a horrible flight as a child and it resulted in making me terrified of flying. It really does affect you for life. I tried taking flying lessons to get over my fear and after only a few lessons my instructor went to Mexico to perform stunts in an airshow and there was a mechanical failure on his plane and he crashed and died. That only made my phobia worse.
@Cochise6666
@Cochise6666 年 前
I live in Tucson AZ and YES 120° F IS HOT. On days like these either the runway tarmac is so sticky or airlift is hampered and flights are delayed
@scottcol23
@scottcol23 年 前
Wow! I had no idea that you were also a Firefighter! that is amazing. What haven't you done! Firefighter, 737 captain, Line Check officer, JPvid star. Keep up the great work!
@disgruntledfaerie
@disgruntledfaerie 年 前
Nice Warren Vanderburgh shout-out there. A legend.
@casachezdoom2588
@casachezdoom2588 9 ヶ月 前
1:49 The simulation of the conversation between the first officer and the captain made me chuckle 😆
@Cptbaraa
@Cptbaraa 年 前
1:50 Schedule in a very civilized time of the morning…..you make my day 😅😅
@SWISS-1337
@SWISS-1337 年 前
An easy mistake to make tbh, with how much they need to do whilst planning a go around. The fact that no one from the flight was killed is a testament to how well the crew did. The captain will likely have nightmares and guilt for the rest of his life over the death of the fireman and what could have been. I'd trust him to fly still if he was the pilot of my plane, because he will likely never make another mistake, from now on he will quadruple check everything, and I feel so bad for all involved.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 年 前
That’s a nice thing to say, kudos 💕
@redboyjan
@redboyjan 年 前
@@MentourPilot I do hope most sensible people concur with this. Often one mistake is likely in any industry or servjce, and how you then react is the thing that often produces flawless work after, and saving the situation well also. Hundreds of lives aren't often on the line, and these pilots are heroes for their actions leading to a good final result I think. My love goes out to the family of the fireman of course, tragic
@Titere05
@Titere05 年 前
Exactly, as it happens with any professional field, the longer one goes without incidents, the more likely it is that complacency and distractions can set in. Overconfidence is difficult to manage.
@daftvader4218
@daftvader4218 年 前
An "easy" mistake to make!!?? To fly you just need ... POWER AND PITCH. Then you monitor Brain Height Airspeed. .. You do not pick a donkey for a Derby....
@daftvader4218
@daftvader4218 年 前
@@redboyjan Are you for real ?? These pilots are "heros"??? An unbelievable lack of basic airmanship.
@LazlowRave
@LazlowRave 年 前
Just wow. You were very informative and gave more information then I ever knew about this incident.
@cassia1797
@cassia1797 年 前
The graphics in this video were incredible. Thank you for the video. May the firefighter rest in peace.
@MsMeteorShower
@MsMeteorShower 年 前
This may be random, but I loved the little "head bobs" with the POV shots from the cockpit 😊
@23Fibonacci
@23Fibonacci 5 ヶ月 前
Excellent account of contributing factors, insights and recommendations, as usual!
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