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Louis Rossmann
Louis Rossmann 2 年 前
8.5 million people watch you, and you planted a seed today in their mind about right to repair. Thank you.
Sign Ready
Sign Ready ヶ月 前
Yes.
Nick McFaddin
Nick McFaddin 2 ヶ月 前
Correct, and for this I am thankful. Unfortunately, he also helped endorse LED lights which, for all of their pros, have cons people don't discuss. You don't get the full light spectrum; reds are pretty much non-existent. And, the refresh rate of LEDs are always there and while our eyes can't see it, our brains do and this helps to cause anxiety and stress. I'm not sure how much better LEDs are than CFL's in this respect but they are better. I just wish someone would uninvent HID lights for vehicles. It's gotten to the point at night, if a newer vehicle with their super bright, cool colored headlights are behind me, I am continually blinded as my night vision is just gone. I can't be the only person experiencing this am I? I direct my side & rear view mirrors down but my vehicle's interior is still lit up.
bgthang
bgthang 2 ヶ月 前
Im like thats a great observation, then I see it's louis Rossman.....Yea go figure :) Love his stuff too. We should have the right to repair ! Hands down. Fight the greed!
Krypto Broker
Krypto Broker 2 ヶ月 前
i am joyed by this community lol
Abinash
Abinash 7 ヶ月 前
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Anonymous Cause thats how i roll
All of this neglects one of the worst parts of planned obsolescence: the overwhelming waste. We don’t have infinite resources, and even when we recycle the old models and items, we still produce emissions and non-recyclable components. Planned obsolescence only further exaggerates resource depletion and pollution
L R
L R 日 前
Since we don’t have infinite resources, certain manufacturers have to be prohibited from producing goods, like GM, or Chrysler and many others in the US. How about getting them all on some welfare program in exchange for no industrial activity, no more making garbage. Americans have to pay for their continuous bankruptcies anyway, also the dollar is worthless, so it will not cost much in real terms to print some more fiat for them.
James Cheddar
James Cheddar ヶ月 前
I kind of welcome the day when this results in catastrophic energy shortages and neo-feudalism. People have a complete misconception about how that's going to go down because of apocalyptic TV shows. Only a small amount of people are going to die, but the people who own the livestock are going to be the new kings because they just became the primary energy controllers
K-oz Dragon
K-oz Dragon ヶ月 前
@Take Janner Its simply the fault of shifting consumer habits & manufacturing. People are unwilling to pay more for goods, so things get made overseas that are not the quality that would last long. However, purchasing "collectible" items was not something your grandparents did. Well, you're probably young enough that it would be your great grandparents. The market responds to consumers - not the other way around. No one is making products that people don't want. Your parents likely wouldn't pay $300 for a crowbar that says "Supreme" on it. The argument that you're forced to buy that crowbar because it exists makes no sense. People buy it because they want it. So yes, it is the "hype beasts" out there driving this sort of consumerism, while cheap goods tend to play a role in high consumer turn over, but is also largely driven by the consumer. I work in an industry where I see this daily. People would rather pay $20 for an item that foesnt work well & will break in less than a year, than pay $100 for a quality one that will last over a decade.
THOM Gizziz
THOM Gizziz 3 ヶ月 前
You aren't as well informed as you feel you are...
Kim Vitali
Kim Vitali 9 ヶ月 前
It amazes me how many people boxed in by the thought that this short lasting disposable goods creates more jobs. There are much higher ways societies can work
darkwillow57
darkwillow57 10 日 前
@Davide Squassabia great idea. If we had no planned obsolescence then independent craftsman who repaired different things would have jobs. And if people's things didn't break all the time by planning then other workers wouldn't have to make as high of wages to replace those things every year. You'd buy one vacuum cleaner your whole life for example and just get it serviced at the repair guy shop.
knight of cydonia
@AutistiCat2406 "and if there are these higher ways that can work then why don't they?" Because we will never allow ourselves to reach a point to where we can eliminate all of the other smaller problems that add up and distract us from discovering these higher ways, the point where incentives become implementing them after discovery. Things like planned obsolescence are the impermeable barrier that stop us from getting there. Instead, we just prioritize profits in the here-and-now, which just keeps us all distracted and divided.
Davide Squassabia
Once, every thing could be repaired. There was a THING-repairer for everything. And many more jobs. Now many times you have to throw away things because there's no one who could fix them, or it would cost more to fix it than to get a new one. Sad
James Cheddar
James Cheddar ヶ月 前
Exactly. Let the people create their own jobs. Even the lazy people can be assistants to the driven people.
HopeisAnger
HopeisAnger 22 日 前
My physics teacher said, "Planned obsolescence isn't a problem, we have recycling now." I hope college is less idiotic than high school.
quilibrium
quilibrium 11 日 前
Spoiler alert, it is not.
Max Goldstein
Max Goldstein 7 ヶ月 前
This really gives some credit to the saying "they don't make em like they used to"
DavJack
DavJack 12 日 前
They don't. Companies try to measure how short a product can last while the customer still maintains trust in the company.
Monaleenian
Monaleenian 24 日 前
Yes, they make them better as far as consumers are concerned. Would you really want to drive the Ford Model T shown in this video?! What is the point of making a car like that last for a lifetime?
Reed Lheureux
Reed Lheureux 3 ヶ月 前
Even LED bulbs have planned obsolescence. To achieve a certain luminosity, nearly all bulbs use a single diode wired with a higher voltage than what it is rated for. This significantly reduces the lifespan and the energy efficiency of the bulb because the diode gives off lots of heat. Manufacturers could easily use several diodes under a lower voltage to achieve the same luminosity while consuming a fraction of the energy and allowing the bulb to last several times longer. Dubai is the only place in the world that regulates the efficiency of LED bulbs, and hence is the only country in the world that sells energy efficient LED bulbs.
Mantisguy
Mantisguy 8 日 前
Reminds me of shoes. I bought a pair of hiking boits that didnt last a year even though I was barely hiking. Meanwhile my grandfather walked around in his 40 year old leather boots that still were in top condition.
Tucsonan Dude
Tucsonan Dude 10 日 前
@Acme Fixer Not necessarily. Thermal cycling occurs where temps go up and down for any reason.. From car engines to patio furniture out in the sun. What do you mean by "too hot"? Are you talking thermal breakdown or thermal runaway?
Acme Fixer
Acme Fixer 10 日 前
@Tucsonan Dude Thermal cycling is the result of getting too hot, then cooling off. It's the fault of the manufacturer for not allowing the LED light to keep cool. If they had not skimped on the cooling, then thermal cycling wouldn't be a problem. If you leave it on all the time, then it stays overheated all the time and eventually dies from excessive heat. Either way, you lose. One way to lengthen the LED light's lifetime is to reduce the power it takes. Big Clive's JPvid channel has many LED light teardowns wher he shows how to reduce the power and prolong the life.
Tucsonan Dude
Tucsonan Dude 11 日 前
@MrJimbaflonix Probably would have been better to leave them on fulltime if longevity is the goal. Thermal cycling is what kills a light bulb.
DJ Meme Xtreme
DJ Meme Xtreme 11 日 前
Great! You are free to make better LED-lights.
Jellyf0x
Jellyf0x 2 年 前
The thing I hate most about planned obsolescence is that it assumes we have endless resources. It's terrible for our planet.
B L
B L ヶ月 前
@William S And most capitalists want longer lasting products and the ability to repair our property.
Ethan
Ethan 3 ヶ月 前
Apple
Moxxie_Helluvabossedits
I totally agree with you
Ashish Ahuja
Ashish Ahuja 3 ヶ月 前
When I was a kid and went for shopping with my parents, I often heard the shopkeeper/seller convince us to buy a product by telling us in Hindi language "dada le pota barte" (written in Hindi as "दादा ले पोता बरते"). It translates to "grandfather buys , grandson uses" and means that product is of such a good quality that it would last three human generations: grandfather, father, and grandson. High quality used to be a competitive advantage to drive sales back then. Now high quality cannibalizes the sales of a product. Capitalism, consumerism, and greed rock*! :) *sarcasm
James Cheddar
James Cheddar ヶ月 前
@Justin James I'm a libertarian so I think any regulations should be in the name of making it equally free for everyone. One thing I was thinking a few years back was that it should be that you're only allowed to own land you live or work on. So rather than having CEOs who make most of the companies money and haven't even set foot in half the locations the one guy who owns each location will have to keep it successful because there is no CEO to throw them a lifeline
Astrid
Astrid ヶ月 前
@Justin James Yeah, anti-captialist laws tend to fix capitalism. Crazy
Justin James
Justin James ヶ月 前
That is the difference between a local mom and pop business and a multinational corporation. The mom and pop business doesn't have to worry about creating a product that lasts forever because they are such a small fraction of the overall market. There will always be new customers for their product. When they are a producer and have a large share of the market, if they create a product that lasts generations they will cannibalize their business.. The answer is strong anti-trust laws (anti-cartel laws) and protections against monopolies..
Heisenberg🥸
Heisenberg🥸 2 ヶ月 前
अब तो दादा भी ठीक से बरतने नहीं पा रहा 😅
StrekozkaPlays
StrekozkaPlays 9 ヶ月 前
I personally make it a point try to buy the most sturdy, lasting things. My last doc martens boots I had (Thailand made, so not as good as the older English stuff) lasted me 5 years as my everyday boots. I found that to be super impressive. Then when it was time to replace them I couldn't find anything as promising so I actually bought barely used ones of the same model, as they don't make that one any more. When I told my cousin about that her response was "why would you want to have the same shoes for that long? Don't you want something new? Something fresh?" Clearly, we have different ways of thinking....
MrCombustibleLemon
MrCombustibleLemon 3 ヶ月 前
These people just don't get it. If something is really good, then there's no reason to do something worse just because it's different.
Jack Paul
Jack Paul 4 ヶ月 前
@geetika and water is wet
geetika
geetika 4 ヶ月 前
Your cousin’s view isn’t inherently wrong either tbh
Derek Kerton
Derek Kerton 6 ヶ月 前
I went full LED early about 10 years ago, and as you said, didn't expect to ever have to change them. But I have had to change some bulbs out twice already. And some of these were name brands (Philips, CREE), and other cheap brands performed about equally well. I suspect there's some planned obsolescence in LED bulbs, too. Regardless, their low power consumption and cooler temps make them great, but I wish they lasted longer.
Lunar Thief
Lunar Thief 13 日 前
The LEDs themselves can last for a very long time assuming you regulate the power well. Generally the failure more is due to the power supply failing or the resistors not being properly sized.
Patrick Howie
Patrick Howie 16 日 前
Never go full led Sean Penn went full led
Rainer Büsching
Rainer Büsching ヶ月 前
exactly my finding
Rainer Büsching
Rainer Büsching ヶ月 前
LED lights don't work for the 30'000 hrs as advertised - me found out, too.
Orobas 66
Orobas 66 ヶ月 前
@Khorinis That's because the circuit is built cheap and the 10 year claim they give is for the LEDs themselves and not the whole bulb or they over volt the LEDs. I bought 8 of them for a chandelier about 6 months ago and one already went while one is going dim.
Backon Lazer
Backon Lazer 7 ヶ月 前
I've had to change plenty of LED bulbs. Planned obsolescence is as strong as ever.
Rainer Büsching
Rainer Büsching ヶ月 前
jep, same here. I dunno why they make that stupid "lasts 30'000hrs" advertisement!
Michelle Doll
Michelle Doll 7 ヶ月 前
This is why I sew my own clothes in Classic styles. Skirts, shorts and shirts can be "updated" with the addition of a couple of inexpensive accessories. Even a nice scarf can be made from a bit of silk and some dye & a few beads. It's not hard to keep a nice wardrobe like this. And it looks better, especially if you don't have an "off-the-rack" body. It can be expensive to buy fabric, so it's a good idea to start small. Make 1 item per season, and build on a basic 3 skirt, 3 pants, 6 shirt, 2 jacket wardrobe base. Even if you never get past the "easy" stage, it's a fun hobby. Here's to Planned Forever clothes!
EmmaAppleBerry
EmmaAppleBerry ヶ月 前
If you make 8 chemises at least 3 everyday dresses 8 aprons to wear over the dresses this preventing your body and the outside world from dirtying the dress and then you make 2 nice/church dresses sunday best etc so one thats maybe shorter sleeved summer material and one thats long sleeved winter material. With this and if you wish a corset sockings/socks and a leather bag gloves shoes youll really only need to do minor repairs and replace the chemise/apron about once a year but all that worn cotton can be used for rags or quilt padding and of course the quilt covering can be the offcuts of sewing the everyday dresses etc and frankly if youre smart youll have very few offcuts or waste with fabric and instead will just use the worn soft and too thin for clothing use and frankly worn in fabrics are way softer perfect for bedding and rags and quicker to dry AND youll be getting far more life out of the product than if you had continued using it as clothing so its not a waste but actually you gain from recyling old clothes. People always need manchester (quilts sheets pillows table cloths curtains) cleaning rags and hygiene products (nappies pads ribbons patches for clothes) so basically you can neber have enough of these handmade high quality often takes a long time to make and aquire the materials so its done over time as the material is gained like children growing out of clothes that are too weak to mend and hand down etc. So really i wish society had stopped at that point. Where everything could last a lifetime or more and be easily repaired and there was little to no waste at all.
Orobas 66
Orobas 66 3 ヶ月 前
"Skirts, shorts and shirts can be "updated" with the addition of a couple of inexpensive accessories." Everything could be updated this way if products were designed properly. It would be amazing if people who wanted to have up to date style could just buy a new cover to swap the old ones with and clothing was designed with a similar thing in mind. What would be even better would be if keeping up with trends wasn't turned into a societal standard and people who didn't keep up with the latest trends weren't bullied then monetised on social media for wearing something that's out of fashion or just being them self. I'm starting to get into making my own cloths on my 1910 treadle sewing machine without touching a single piece of plastic and the last winter coat I'll ever need unless something awful happens is on my list of things to make.
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
hi
Tamia Jackson
Tamia Jackson 5 ヶ月 前
I'm with you on this...! I'm learning to sew right now
Be Smart
Be Smart 2 年 前
On the other hand, JPvid is filled with lots of unplanned obsolescence
Harry Gregg
Harry Gregg 6 ヶ月 前
Computers have built in obsolescence
Kaththee
Kaththee 9 ヶ月 前
@Leo Leon That is an easy one. It is the plea of every government agency along with a petition for more money- incompetence of course.
Fahim Jaowad Sam
Fahim Jaowad Sam 10 ヶ月 前
Joeee, my man!!
Mark Pillion
Mark Pillion 10 ヶ月 前
@bananaboy🍌🍌 what has lead you to your conclusion?
Sonofsun.
Sonofsun. 10 ヶ月 前
Oh
7Blau7
7Blau7 6 ヶ月 前
Wow. I had this in my playlist forever. The IPhone 14 came out yesterday. The video is soooo well Made, informative and entertaining. I am a lawyer specialising in competition, yet i have never heard about the lightbulb-cartell before. What an inspiring story on competition law.
Josh Bippert
Josh Bippert ヶ月 前
A friend of my parents once invented a device that screws into the lightbulb socket before the bulb that acted like a surge protector for incandescent bulbs. This dramatically increased the lifespan of the bulbs in his house to the point where he never had to replace the bulbs. GE learned about it when he tried to patent it and got the device patented before he could. This device has since been buried
Caveman Hikes
Caveman Hikes 17 日 前
Interesting. Surge protectors do exist and they do work but yeah not the convenient kind that screws in with the light bulb.
Captain Obvious
Captain Obvious 20 日 前
Fun fact: The Centennial Bulb isn't even the only Shelby Electric Co lightbulb still in existence. It's just the oldest (and therefore most famous) one. There are actually 26 lightbulbs that were made by Shelby Electric prior to 1914 that still function even to this day.
Exhumatu
Exhumatu 3 ヶ月 前
Seen thousands of videos here but none with this impact. I've created subtitles first time in my life only to show this movie to family. Love you! I'm not going into details, but you changed my life with this video.
elakstein
elakstein ヶ月 前
Later on when you have time, please do share how it changed your life.
Yash Chaturvedi
Yash Chaturvedi 17 日 前
This video is THE best video on JPvid I have ever seen. It was SO well made and so well done up to the very last moment which gave me goosebumps. Keep up the great work!
NightHawkInLight
Great video! As a carbon filament lightbulb enthusiast I'm glad you didn't hold out the centennial bulb as an example of long life in and of itself, as the limited power supply is certainly the main factor. The only flaw in this video (in my opinion) is the led bulb being held out as finally being everlasting. If anything, planned obsolescence is more at work in led bulbs than ever. Sure, the leds themselves last, but the components in the base of the bulb which supply the leds with dc power are absolutely not made to last (edit: Actually I should qualify that statement, because I don't know about all manufacturers. There could be some good ones.). You could make your own led bulb that would last far longer than those sold off the shelf.
Milan Trcka
Milan Trcka 年 前
@Bill Krueger Plus all the electronics has to fit (more or less) into the spatial envelope of a standard incandescent bulb base. Most incandescent fixtures do not have sufficient cooling (I am dealing with ceiling fixtures right now). They are running bloody hot. Same with the old "curly fries" fluorescents.
Kenny Laysh
Kenny Laysh 年 前
They can also make the LEDs run longer, because they cost so much more, if you get smart bulbs. $40 a bulb for a Hue, they can afford to have them last longer.
PirateChucker
@NightHawkInLight: Back in the day, actually night, I used only 135 Volt incandescent light bulbs in my home. Operating on standard 110/120 volt house voltage, they lasted far longer than 110/120 Volt bulbs.
noop9k
noop9k 年 前
Yeah, they make LED lamps with artificial obsolescence as well.
Ed C
Ed C 年 前
If you stick to the higher end commercial products, the ones where someone is paying someones wage to go change them, then you'll get much better products.
Octo
Octo 3 ヶ月 前
The issue of planned obsolescence is compound. You addressed the obvious technological side and some of the cultural one, but didn't touch the social implications of it today. I think a lot of people wouldn't be so driven to update their electronics and cars and clothes if it weren't for the culture of consumerism and judgment of their social peer group if they fail to do so. Sure, you can be reductive and try to say that people only want the new shiny thing because "it's a new color" and it appeals to their surface vanity, but I think it's a lot more than that. It's the fact that there is a stigma around being the one in the office with the oldest phone, or going out for drinks with your friends in the least trendy clothing. Even if YOU like the older thing, or at the very least don't have a personal desire to update it in a vacuum, you'll find that the outside pressure of wanting to 'keep up' can change that fairly quickly. I think that's also starting to change a little. An interest in vintage clothing and vintage machines, a renewed excitement about "homesteading" and "cottagecore" ideals (even surface level as they can be), along with a growing frustration in modern technology not delivering on promises made is converging into a population that's rejecting the idea that there's something wrong with having an older phone, dressing in an older style, or choosing to do things a simpler way. Eventually, that will not be a preference but rather a necessity. Between climate change, resource scarcity, stagnating incomes, and disasters like Covid 19, we're going to see less and less "keeping up with the Jones'" type of behavior simply because it can't be accomplished anymore. The rising cost of food and other basic goods necessarily means that spending on non-basic goods will have to go down, if wages don't rise. We're already seeing a huge squeeze on things like canning equipment, goods for growing your own food, sewing equipment and supplies, etc. Things that normal people can do to "go back to the old ways". At least in some respects.
Caveman Hikes
Caveman Hikes 17 日 前
Some of the cultural pressure is real and absurd. There are kids that literally get bullied if they don't have an iPhone. Doesn't even matter if it's an inferior product.
John Schuh
John Schuh ヶ月 前
I change only because I can’t get things repaired. I first ran up against that in the early ‘60s when I could not get my watch cleaned.
Zaydan Alfariz
Zaydan Alfariz 2 ヶ月 前
@Octo Almost of all of them I subbed. Tho one in particular is quite spicy (due to distorting history) amongst Victorian fashion lovers. I forgot which one, but certainly not Karolina
Octo
Octo 2 ヶ月 前
@Zaydan Alfariz Yes! I also like Bernadette Banner, Angela Walters, and Abby Wilcox.
MissAsyan
MissAsyan 7 ヶ月 前
Our english teacher mentioned this back in third grade. One of the most interesting things I've heard, I remember the parts about lightbulbs and stockings were prime examples Austin made a similar video but it's only about printer ink. Not exactly the same, but you get it. Purposely making things more inconvenient and making rights to repair so expensive. Man
CherryVision_VFX
CherryVision_VFX 4 ヶ月 前
I always had this conspiracy in my head for a long time, at least relating to phones. Thinking they made the software efficiency degrade on purpose. Only just learned the term for it today
Nissan.O
Nissan.O 7 ヶ月 前
It's interesting to think about; If companies were truely racing to make the best and most durable products, would a business model of: producing products for a certain feild, mastering the crafts in that feild, eventually stop profiting from that feild and then move on to doing business on another feild, be a feasible strategy? It could make for some very interesting products because companies would have unique ideas from concepts they learned from different feilds, and use that to make their product stand out. It could be like a gold mine, everyone likes finding it, but it's natrual that it ends. Another benefit to this stategy is the ability to carry good reputation from one feild to another. Either way that method seems much better for the planet. What do you think?
nicholas ash
nicholas ash 3 ヶ月 前
Bloody hell! I can remember when the "everlasting lightbulb" was an urban myth, and you were a tinfoil hat enthusiast if you thought it was true. A while ago i heard that a certain computer processor manufacturer were working on their Mk VII model before they'd even released the Mk V (I.e. the successor's successor) - I gave it no credence then, but I'm starting to wonder now!
mk VV
mk VV ヶ月 前
@Lee Bee Remind me not to have you write any ad copy for my company ;) Fwiw, I've found that the "warm" or "natural" led coatings are adequate for GP lighting. Then there's bright white for when I need it. Black lights for when I want it. Etc.
Lee Bee
Lee Bee ヶ月 前
It's not true. Testing has shown that in real-world conditions, modern 'bulbs' such as LEDs don't really last much longer than real bulbs, plus they don't count as real light bulbs anyway since they're so unpleasant, depressing, toxic, cold, etc. They're a horrible, nasty, cheap, tacky substitute for real light bulbs which I would never use. They also burn my skin.
tommie cottril
tommie cottril 2 ヶ月 前
Company who realse things every year has had done the major things like designing, tools required, molds etc many years before the product was realsed do you think apple can make a iPhone in just 1 year (yes with what little they change) but a modern day CPU (core prosing unit) has billon of parts in it.
Burns Blown Glass
A GM engineer once told me, "it's easy to make a car last forever, getting one to break down in 7 years is the trick"
Squirrel Leader
Squirrel Leader 18 日 前
Henry Ford was working towards this. Watch his sledgehammer demonstration
hikeskool
hikeskool 3 ヶ月 前
@BlackFaceGaming that's why you don't hear "'green' energy" hucksters refer to "peak oil" anymore. EOR is a huge industry. We have so much provable recoverable reserves we pick and choose what's the most profitable to extract. And yet tens of thousands will freeze to death this winter because they can't afford heating oil and natural gas. Sad. Hope this helps have a Blessed weekend 👌
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
Clone Commander Mike
American cars in a nutshell.
HooliganHiker95
HooliganHiker95 5 ヶ月 前
@Wilsonator whats the difference lol
Jo Brown
Jo Brown 6 ヶ月 前
I believe that making something as best as we can so that way it lasts forever and we don't have to continuously replace it would be the more ideal approach because then you wouldn't be wasting all the material and all the hard work and time and effort put into obtaining these materials from wherever they're source by just throwing them away or discarding them to have them wind up in oceans or landfills or the ditch on the side of the road. make things to last so we don't have to waste and want, cuz eventually we won't have it in order to make the things that we waste and want ,but the reason we don't is more than likely in my opinion anyway the reason why we "don't" for a lot of things, because money beats all
fxturist853
fxturist853 ヶ月 前
my grandmother's old fridge lasted for like 30+ years and it was still working when we changed it (some functions weren't working but it was mostly in freezer) and when we bought new fridge, it started to malfunction in like a year lmao
Caveman Hikes
Caveman Hikes 17 日 前
I have the same problem with lawn mowers. The oldest mower never has to be replaced. The newer ones I have to replace almost every year. I bought the old one used 20 years ago.
Zach
Zach 7 ヶ月 前
This video is a fascinating exposé on a widely suspected but until now difficult to prove phenomenon -- planned obsolescence. A very sneaky tactic And a very well produced documentary. Thank you.
Ashley Demko
Ashley Demko 8 ヶ月 前
Don't you love how capitalism means "we need planned obsolescence so we don't lose our jobs" and not "long lasting products mean we don't have to work as much"? Something went wrong there.
Jack Paul
Jack Paul 4 ヶ月 前
@Unelith actually no, it's exactly focused on why jobs existed in the first place, which is to provide income so you can feed and shelter your progeny. the problem is a labor based economy isn't sustainable without growth. once we break free from scarcity and advance automation, people won't have to work, and backwards things won't be done just to keep people's hands busy. and until we have matter fabricators and androids, stop blaming the laws of physics on a boogeyman. "capitalism" is a word for a non-concept. regulating and restricting exchange and forced redistribution aren't going to make the world a better place. when step one of your plan is everyone gets on board with it, it's a bad plan. and then the hidden clause "or else" gets really messy.
Unelith
Unelith 5 ヶ月 前
@Ashley Demko You're right, and it's so sad :x It's like we lost sight of why jobs existed in the first place
MissMoontree
MissMoontree 7 ヶ月 前
@Erik Udumbara You are probably responding to a troll. Either that or to someone who never been outside their village and still thinks their village is the best, while being unable to name another village.
olemew
olemew 7 ヶ月 前
@Napishtim The biggest amounts of waste and pollution happened during socialism regimes. For example, instead of a CEO, you have an official. This official needs to meet a quota. In capitalism, missing output might mean getting fired or at least protested by the board. In URSS, it gets you killed. So what you do is demand double raw materials that you really need, and use as much energy and resources as necessary. It's not about being energy efficient. It's about not getting killed.
movax20h
movax20h 7 ヶ月 前
Planned obsolescence is way more spread than people think. It is in every day products and tools. Examples: power tools - various bearings and shafts being sub-standard, or made of poor plastics, while it lowers the cost, it makes them very susceptible to breaking in a very specific way, especially if overloaded. This sometimes is actually a GOOD thing, as cheap part breaks first protecting rest of a device, and if replacements can be done easily is actually pro-consumer. But often you can't. non-replacable batteries one time use products: disposable cameras, some ink cartridges various household items, like kettles, vacuum cleaners, fridges, washing machines, sawing machines, toys, headphones, even cars. they have specific parts (often switch, leaver, gears, screws) engineered to fail first. often just adding minuscule extra amount of material (so it would not change the cost or environment impact), would make the device last 10 times longer. power supplies in many appliances, including TVs, radios, computers, projectors, etc - they often use poor quality electrolitic capacitors, or place them close to hot components with poor cooling, making them gradually degrade and eventually fail. it is extremely common. multiplayer games - servers hosted by makers of the game, shut down after few years, with no way to host own server to continue playing. phones - edge to edge screens, class covers, all to make it more likely to break creating thinner and lighter products, i.e. laptop keyboards, screen hinges, poorly soldered ports, etc. all on purpose to break easier. there are companies making good and lasting products, but they often are bit more bulky or unfashionable, they are expensive, nobody buys them, so they are even more expensive. so they go out of business. the most depressing part is that designing a part that breaks, actually takes way more engineering effort than making a part that last essentially forever. it takes a lot of knowledge, engineering, science and testing to make a part that break in a specific way, but to make parts last very long is rather easy, by creating big safety factors. so parts that look beefy and strong, are not "over engineered", they are actually under engineered.
mk VV
mk VV ヶ月 前
It must have drained your mental reserves in making the list...it did mine in reading it. And the list could go on. The Universe appears to be entropic, and here we are helping it along! The only thing constant is change.
JerryRigEverything
Great video. Thank you for bringing attention to this.
Bobby Z
Bobby Z 年 前
only ten years behind everyone else, lol
Lucas Ng
Lucas Ng 年 前
@Reelix No
Reelix
Reelix 年 前
Hey Jerry - You should run a survey on your channel asking users when last they changed a LED bulb in their house to see how true this "Change your house before your LED bulbs" claim is :)
ARtronicS
ARtronicS 年 前
And you are a hood example of using a phone for longer Think u knew this before?
ヘスリングマイク
Planned obsolesence is a concept I learned from my dad 45 years ago. Diametrically opposite to anything made in China. (unplanned obsolesence) But I digress. I believe improving the product so consumers would want to opt up is the hallmark of good company.
Cliff Kennell
Cliff Kennell 7 ヶ月 前
Absolutely love your videos. Thank you for the education and for doing such a great job. Bravo.
Name
Name 3 ヶ月 前
This is why anti trust laws are so important and shouldn’t be neglected
Doctor Dipsh1t
Doctor Dipsh1t 8 ヶ月 前
One thing I do like about obsolescence is that I can buy a "dated" model for much cheaper that is only fractionally worse than the most up to date. I get a new cell phone every 3-4 years, new car after 10 years, etc.
Loren Harder
Loren Harder ヶ月 前
Absolutely. I've done the same thing as part of a peer-pressure-free lifestyle and it has served me well. Of course, products that continue to be usable long after their "expiration date" are not truly obsolete. They are only psychologically or socially "obsolete," aka, uncool. Where my thrifty ways hit a snag however, is with products that become unusable due to incompatibility with newer technology or unavailability of repair parts, backward-compatible software, etc.
Doctor Dipsh1t
Doctor Dipsh1t 4 ヶ月 前
@Jack Paul obsolescence involves the social element as well bud. Not just parts. People getting rid of perfectly good products because they feel it's obsolete is what drives this type of refurbished market. Did you not watch the video?
Jack Paul
Jack Paul 4 ヶ月 前
an affordable used market has nothing to do with this. in fact, this makes the used market much worse. dated products being functional and affordable with repairs and maintenance comes from rugged and durable design.
December Names
December Names ヶ月 前
I enjoyed every second. Please keep it coming.Thank you for another great video brother
A G
A G 2 年 前
As an electrical engineer, I can assure you... We are literally educated in school about how to design for the desired failure timeframe. It seems criminal
Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner 2 ヶ月 前
You know, you could just instead of buying lightbulbs and feeding into the bs schemes, why not just save ya money and buy the materials, and then make your own lightbulbs based off a design that'd last you as long as you'd like? I feel like some people look at the problem but forget "oh hey, I don't have to feed into this bs, I can ____ instead".
Julieta Solayao
Julieta Solayao 2 ヶ月 前
How it will happen the conspiracy theories..ive invested before in Forex a long time ago,why this is all happens I'm not a fake One
Fluffy1oO1Owl
Fluffy1oO1Owl 3 ヶ月 前
For cars it does make some sense. Materials do degrade and some times you have to change them out purely because of safety. But obsolence on some products do not make sense. Industry should be made so that they focus on upgradin them instead of throwing out them all together.
Samuel Goldhyde
Samuel Goldhyde 3 ヶ月 前
Whose worse the šłavęmaster or the sláves who just keep jumping and asking how high
Growskull
Growskull 3 ヶ月 前
if you wanted could you make a truly efficient one for yourself
nervmich.net
nervmich.net 7 ヶ月 前
Very nice video indeed. Industry shifted from "constant sales" to "constant service" for quite some time now - in every aspect, not just physical objects. It must be ensured that a new product needs service on a regular base.
mk VV
mk VV ヶ月 前
That's the pivot he didn't talk about. I predict we'll see manufacturers start making stuff last longer (this has already started last millennium when Japan stomped US car sales, primarily on quality/longevity). But, they will be engineered to be just good enough to require constant service (see Volkswagon Beetle)(I joke, I joke! Mostly). Since anything people make has to be serviced, viola'! more servicing! More employment for servicers! More employment for people servicing, er, the servicers!
DTWGamingHub
DTWGamingHub 9 ヶ月 前
I think about this stuff a lot. Not just about light bulbs. This conspiracy goes real deep.
Peter B
Peter B 7 ヶ月 前
Great job! I have to admit iPhones are lighter and larger now. I just pulled my old one of a drawer today by coincidence, and it "felt" old, while it's not really that old. It was just surpassed. It looks small and heavy, compared to my new one (only iPhone 7). Even without "style" judgements, it has been improved upon. What hasn't been improved is the flip phone. I went back to a flip phone for a while. I didn't think the early iPhone was worth the cost. The flip phone was perfect for what it was supposed to do. The older iPhone was slow and the only time I used any of the cellular data options was when I had to wait somewhere, like the tire store, with nothing to do. It was just a phone and a paperweight otherwise. My current iPhone/ camera/ radio/ podcaster/ bank teller is much better.
Terry Doner
Terry Doner 2 ヶ月 前
I’ve heard it said that an engineer needs to choose between serviceability and reliability. Something can be made more serviceable but will likely be less reliable, increasing the probability of needing service. I’m sure it isn’t that straightforward, but would be an interesting exploration.
Andrew Grosvenor
Andrew Grosvenor 3 ヶ月 前
Hey there, we recently bought a house that had this leaf blower in the attic... It has a few issues that should resolve, after minor repairs as you demonstrated in this video. THANK YOU very much for the detailed video, instructions, and pro tips! It is really helpful for a guy who knows enough to be "dangerous" LOL much obliged, God bless you and yours! Happy Thanksgiving! I am very grateful for this video! Godspeed+++
BADWOLF42
BADWOLF42 2 年 前
Slightly different than obsolescence, but when I was 13 or so, my neighbor (who lived about a mile away since I grew up on a farm) hired me to help him cut and load some old, dead oak trees to sell the wood. For those who don't know, wood is usually sold by the cord when dealing with large sales, which is a measure of volume (around 1,000 gallons, I think). So I started loading this wood into a trailer, and on the second day I was helping him, he stopped me and told me that I was loading it too well. I was being too efficient, packing the wood into the trailer too tightly and thus reducing his profit from the sale of the wood, since there was more wood per cord. He made me stop and instead load it loosely and less efficiently. A few days after that, I came up with a way to use his tractor to load the wood faster than either of us could by hand, and he fired me once he realized how well it worked. Really taught me a lot about the world.
Edward Brown
Edward Brown ヶ月 前
@Jay Bee don’t believe everything you hear
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
Kay Zee
Kay Zee 4 ヶ月 前
I have a friend who went to work for the post office. After the first week, he was pulled aside by another mail carrier and told to slow down. The quote was, "If you get back in by 3:00, They gonna expect ALL a us to be back by 3:00." Cardboard is recycled by weight so the latin guy picking it up in pick-up trucks throw water on all the inner layers. It probably doesn't help them since the fibers will swell and less will fit on the truck or they hit the supspension limits with less c.board on the truck.
The Doc’s Spaghetti
@Jay Bee It’s not us, it’s these faceless companies who only care about short term profits.
mister bobo
mister bobo 5 ヶ月 前
@Dennis Raes that’s just your opinion. Nothing to do with reality. T5 just denotes shape and circumference.
Adam Cole
Adam Cole ヶ月 前
I have an incandescent bulb I just replaced after almost 30 years of regular use at full intensity. It was powered thru a bedside "sun-rizr" controller that ramped up the power smoothly, instead of a typical switch that shocks the cold filament with full current. Made a night vs. day difference in bulb lifespan as well as my sleep habits!
Gregg Greene
Gregg Greene 6 ヶ月 前
That's the same thing with the things we're buying today, one of these are our phones and other devices. Before,during my dad's and mom's time the time spent ( my mom,especially, takes a long time to be done) shopping was well worth it. Those were the times when manufacturers were competing against each other to produce beautiful, durable and really quality merchandise. Well,those light bulbs cartel came earlier but their business practices weren't that well known that time,unlike today obsolescency practices seem to be normal! I think it's a criminal act that should be addressed by the government and other consumer groups. It's a betrayal of people's trust. Yeah,that's why we can't have nice things. It's like freedom,liberty and such,to have nice things one has to fight for it.
Team Ahabhouna
Team Ahabhouna 7 ヶ月 前
Your presentation and timing is fantastic. Always look forward your useful videos.
Zoolander Skytower
I put led lights in my house, and they go out all the time. I have been in this house for 2 years and replaced all the lights when I moved in. I have since replaced a lot of those lights especially in rooms like the kitchen and living where they get used the most. I guess they figured obsolescence out for LEDs as well. I think it is not the bulbs themselves but whatever condenser or whatever it uses in the bulb. Maybe one day I will rip one apart and see what's in it. Also I noticed phones have a useful lifespan of 2 years. I bought an S10 and broke it so bought another S10 instead of getting the newer S21 and after a year it is still working fine even though the phone model is 3 to 4 years old. My theory was that each upgrade made the phones worse after 2 years but that would only make sense if the phone Model was 2 years old and not the individual phone. Like if they were nerfing the phone firmware or OS with each additional update. But obviously that isn't it if my phone is still working well and is a 4 year old model even though it's a 1 year old phone.
boredgunner
boredgunner 3 ヶ月 前
Essentially everlasting LED bulbs, but then planned obsolescence came into play once again. Electroboom has a good video on that.
Crypto With Lorenzo
My mum had an oven that lasted 30 years, fully functioning right till the end. Then when she got a replacement, the technician told her that the company who manufactured them went broke because their ovens very rarely broke down. It's sad that we've gone from one extreme of excellent durability and reliability to planned obsolescence.
Gary Weddle
Gary Weddle 23 日 前
@Monaleenian What about the environmental impact?
Monaleenian
Monaleenian 24 日 前
@Gary Weddle "Is it better to have one washing machine that lasts a lifetime even if it's not that efficient, or to own 10 different models over the same period, each one requiring a lot of energy to produce" The energy and materials used to produce the appliance costs less than the price that the consumer buys the appliance for(otherwise the manufacturer would be making a loss on the sale). Assuming equal performance, what matters to the consumer is the total cost of ownership, which includes the electricity bill, the cost of the appliance, the opportunity cost of the time he spends buying the new appliances and fees associated with disposing the appliances when they stop working. If that is lower then it is better.
John Schuh
John Schuh ヶ月 前
Maybe the company broke down because they didn’t extend their markets by advertising. Or maybe, just because customers were satisfied inferior by cheaper ovens, How many people live in the same place for 30 years? Of course, a later model Packard was as good as any Caddy, but just could not sell as many cars.
Orobas 66
Orobas 66 3 ヶ月 前
The mistake that and other companies made was not branching out to other markets like food and beauty products that we have to buy regularly no matter how good they are which is what I think companies need to start doing and be prepared to shrink down parts that are selling less without going bankrupt.
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
thenumbdave
thenumbdave 7 ヶ月 前
I started thinking about Alec Guiness in the Man In The White Suit when he theme of the video became apparent and then you mentioned it! It's worth pointing out that it's a comedy, although more satirical than laugh out loud. When Guiness's character spouts the (incompehensible to most people) science about isomers and carbon chains to an uncomprehending listener, it's a joke about his naivety and lack of worldliness, and sheds light on his inablity to deal with the backlash that follows his invention. The film is very watchable even now, and almost unbearably tragic especially given the relevance that you highlight in this video.
Chris Green
Chris Green 8 ヶ月 前
I find it interesting people are reverting back to old fashioned bulbs now as a sort of nostalgia. Great video. Thanks
Found One
Found One 2 ヶ月 前
Too bad those LED light bulbs also have planned obsolescence! The first LED bulb I bought was heavy had a heat sink, cost almost $30 and is still going almost 10 years later now. Many others that are recent and lightweight like the one you show at the end didn't make it 1 year!
ryanpaul
ryanpaul 7 ヶ月 前
This is interesting because it seems like the planned obsolescence is applicable in mostly newly created things. Like when lightbulbs were first being used it was a concern that they would go out of business because too good of one was made. The same with cars, now people want to make their car last longer. And iPhones as you said have not changed much and the old ones would work perfectly fine except for the software updates forcing them out. It's been ~140 years since the first lightbulb and now we have an "everlasting one". Maybe in 40 years we will have cars that last quite some time.
Caveman Hikes
Caveman Hikes 17 日 前
I know that car tires have had the ability to last as long as the car for a long time now. But they try to keep them around 100,000 miles. As a maximum. Otherwise it gets expensive and then you could still damage the tire. But, lifetime tires have been possible but mostly intentionally avoided by manufacturing companies
Don Vidovic
Don Vidovic ヶ月 前
Unfortunately, LED light bulbs mentioned at the end of the video are now running into the problem of planned obsolescence as of 2023. I have several home built LED lights from 2005 that have never failed, a few 2008 commercial that also have not failed. But from circa 2015 on most last between 3-5 years now, with only a few that have lasted longer.
Konrad Peters
Konrad Peters 2 年 前
As an industrial designer I can honestly say that’s one of the most frustrating aspects of the industry. One always wants to design a product with the best characteristics.
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
Sparkey Jones
@Dennis Raes Well, of course, but the end result is the same no matter how you look at it.
Dennis Raes
Dennis Raes 年 前
@Sparkey Jones every developing technology is more expensive, nothing to do with quality. After the production is running factories will look how to make there products cheaper in production cost wich creates a loss of quality and how to be able to sell more of them by any means necessary..
Konrad Peters
Konrad Peters 2 年 前
@Electron Resonator will you give me the startup capital? ;)
Electron Resonator
then why not make your own company and become the HERO of consumer?
Random Thing
Random Thing 8 ヶ月 前
This is one of the reasons why we cannot dismiss conspiracy theories, but we should be skeptical about them.
Edward Brown
Edward Brown ヶ月 前
We should be skeptical of everything, including people who shame conspiracy theories.
newwavepop
newwavepop 7 ヶ月 前
this is sort of what happened to me with my computer recently, you know the saying was always that the quality would keep improving while the prices simultaneously went down. well ive bought about 4 computers since my first one in 2000 and they have all been about the same price and while they did at first improved a good bit from the last one my most recent one was a massive let down. i got my last one about 8 years ago as a Best Buy, when i went in there were like 4 aisles full of PC's to chose from. i am a home body and dont go shopping unless i need to and i am not a keeping up with the Joneses type so i dont follow things and havent been paying attention to computers, bt when my computer finally stopped turning on after about 8 years i went back to Best Buy to look at computers and where they once had 4 aisles of PC's they now literally had 3 PC's to choose from and they were all a massive downgrade from my old computer but still about the same price. there were a ton of laptops but i could not give a crap about laptops, like i said i am a home body i dont really want or need a computer you can pick up and carry around. so i started looking all over online and i could not find a computer anywhere that wasnt a downgrade from my last now dead one, all i could find were inferior PC;s still in that same price range or a bunch of far more expensive fancy gamers PC's. the computer i had was not some fancy one when i got it it was a lower mid priced pretty standard computer, now my new computer costs just as much and doesnt seem like anything runs any better or faster and it clearly just looks cheaper and most of all i was pissed off because it only has one fourth of the hard drive space so i couldnt even try to transfer all the stuff off of my old computer when i managed to get it to turn on just to transfer my files.
Av3
Av3 7 ヶ月 前
the new computers likely arent inferior... as it's very unlikely... you could've just built one
Neo
Neo 7 ヶ月 前
People have always feared and/or rejected anyone who goes too far from the 'average'. Most people want things to stay the same especially when they are doing well for themselves.
Gregory LaGrange
Gregory LaGrange 8 ヶ月 前
Explains, and confirms my thoughts, on the hesitancy and expense for bringing LEDs to the market. And for the cars in different colors. It seems they have gotten away from that form of obsolescence because for a nation that has such a deep history of love for the automobile, they oddly have a dearth of variety now when it comes to car colors. Take a look and count how many cars are white, black, or some version of gray (I include silver as a version of gray). And cars that are some other color are usually such a dull that they might as well be gray. That's one of the reason classic cars are so cool. And why just based on color variety alone I'm a fan of Royal Enfield motorcycles.
Brian Haygood
Brian Haygood 7 ヶ月 前
I've seen plenty of LED lightbulbs blow out in a year or two of use. I think a lot of manufacturers are using poor quality heat management in the bulb's base to make sure their bulbs don't last.
Jack Paul
Jack Paul 4 ヶ月 前
@Erik Lindgren not mentioning the dubai bulbs in this video was a massive oversight.
Erik Lindgren
Erik Lindgren 5 ヶ月 前
yes! that, and just running the diodes harder than they are really rated for. if you want efficient bulbs, you put more diodes in, and slightly under run it instead, thats how you get those "15 year + " lifespans.
David Letasi
David Letasi 年 前
My aunt moved into her family home in 1919 at age 14 and had a 1913 Edison light bulb on her second story stair well. She lived in the house untill her death in 2002. She replaced that bulb a year before her death and she gave it to me and I have kept it right up to writing this comment and the other day plugged it in to see if it's still works. Bright as ever! Going on 108 years old.
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
Gil Batzri
Gil Batzri 年 前
@David Letasi What a beautiful respectful response. You are a mensch sir.
Gil Batzri
Gil Batzri 年 前
@Jenna Eisel no, they are not efficient heaters, they merely burn most of the power they consume in heat creation, it doesn't mean that they are efficient, because you think you can heat your house with that heat, you can't because they don't produce enough heat for the power they use.
joseph carioggia
I wonder if you have some monetary value in that bulb?
Catherine S. Todd
@Mys. Wren : it was clear to me that you meant no offense and I thought your comment was helpful and informative. I was shocked at the defensive response by David Letasi and would have been interested in buying the bulb until I read his barbed response. I'm sorry you had to experience that, and I was glad to read David's response. Perhaps he did not realize how hurtful some responses can be, even if unintended. I hope you are feeling better as I too have chronic illnesses and know what the flare up can do, especially after an emotional attack. Hope you feel better soon and God bless!
TrollFaceTheMan
TrollFaceTheMan 8 ヶ月 前
8:40, that is exactly the issue. The class action lawsuits these companies pay are a small, miniscule fraction of the profits they make meaning that nothing really changes.
Inuie Choi
Inuie Choi 3 ヶ月 前
My parents still have flawless iphone 4. Their lifetime habit of treating their belongings with care has allowed most everything to last a really long time. The only reason I got them a new phone was because they literally stopped providing service to the phone.
PRIYANSH SUTHAR
PRIYANSH SUTHAR ヶ月 前
I used to take my LED bulb for so much granted untill now. I will respect my bulb because its ancestors have travelled a long way since their invention.
shadow cadence
shadow cadence 4 ヶ月 前
In my experience LED bulbs these days are one of the shortest lived products you can buy. I'm convinced there's a cartel secretly shortening their lifespan as well 😅
AquahoodCH
AquahoodCH 2 ヶ月 前
Corrections: I've been to Thomas Edison's lab and his light bulbs he made are still working.He also never really slept. He took cat naps on his bench and his garden is worth a look.
Ryan Taylor
Ryan Taylor 2 年 前
When I was a young boy and my Grandfather complained "They keep making this junk cheaper so you have to keep buying it"... he must have said that a hundred times to me over the years... turns out Grandpa knew what the hell he was talking about.
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
Sonofsun.
Sonofsun. 10 ヶ月 前
Bruh everyone says old things work better and longer. Around me this was a fact
Osama Bin Login
Osama Bin Login 10 ヶ月 前
I've also had a lot of LED lightbulbs go dark - way more than they're supposed to.Sometimes I think it's a loose connection, mostl y on the cheap ones.
loa one8
loa one8 10 ヶ月 前
when i was a young boy, my father took me into the city, to see a marching band…
Jane L.
Jane L. 10 ヶ月 前
You could repair things to keep things longer. Now it’s expensive to keep old items running.
Michael T. Wardle "Spider"
My grandfather called it "built in obsolescence." It is a disgusting result of our money hungry civilization. It will ultimately lead to society's downfall.
THSand
THSand 7 ヶ月 前
In 2013, I bought a telephone in a random store for 29 euros. Said telephone has only stopped working a few months ago. I'm not confident that the replacement I got will get to last half as long, and that's nothing short of tragic.
Hixeta Kalkri
Hixeta Kalkri 4 ヶ月 前
I have always heard about it, artificial obsolescence.. it makes sense sometimes but not everywhere
Mackenzie
Mackenzie 7 ヶ月 前
Got no evidence of this, but my grandfather was running a factory making a lightbulb that lasted forever. After making a lot of money in a year, he found out that a big company (can’t remember which one) had bought the factory and then closed it down. My shock when this video started haha
Eleven Plays
Eleven Plays 2 日 前
This video had me subscribed now. This is now my favorite video from you. Thank you for talking about this subject.
Sarah Schulz
Sarah Schulz 年 前
My parents recently got a new microwave and gave me their old one they got for their wedding - I'm 25 and warming up my leftovers in the same microwave my baby food was warmed in... pretty amazing. I would love if everything lasted forever. Planned obsolescence feels like such a waste of resources.
Orobas 66
Orobas 66 3 ヶ月 前
The microwave I'm using is 33 years old while my mom's microwave which is only 4 years old started turning off randomly. I took a look at it and a relay wasn't properly soldered to the board from the factory and I had to re solder it. I know several other people who have microwaves from the 80s that had never been repaired and they all work fine to this day. Anyone who has a microwave made before the 2010s, especially if it's from the 80s should never throw it out and repair it if it stops working no matter how outdated it looks cause once you replace it with a modern one, you might get stuck replacing it against your will every few years.
Siluda
Siluda 10 ヶ月 前
what would you do if you micro broke and all the companys were no more because there is no one producing the products ?
Agni Das
Agni Das 10 ヶ月 前
save that thing. those microwaves are rare now. serious. it's a collectors item. you named the right time period. Certain hobbyists will even pay you just for the insides of it - there is something you cannot buy anymore inside really well made which fits so many DIY projects.
Sonofsun.
Sonofsun. 10 ヶ月 前
We are already reaching the all robot and no human work force we need plans for everlasting products
RotRyujin
RotRyujin 5 ヶ月 前
I want to Thank you @Veritasium for keeping the sponsor at the end of your video! I want to see the video first then watch sponsored stuff at the end! Keep doing it this way I will watch the full video for this type of way videos are made.
Tejas Kulkarni
Tejas Kulkarni 9 ヶ月 前
A fun reliability story we have here! I love this :)
Cesar Abeid
Cesar Abeid 3 ヶ月 前
LED lightbulbs are nowhere close to lasting this long. I’ve had to change many of them already, in the little time we’ve been using them.
Angel Bloom
Angel Bloom 2 ヶ月 前
@Homework Have spent 15 bucks for an expensive LED bulb in my country (which is around 7 dollars). Only thing I bought it for - brighter. But no kidding when I switched rental places, I took that lightbulb with me too :D. So far, been lighting my room for 5 years.
Homework
Homework 2 ヶ月 前
Agreed. That’s theoretical. Usually the other components break and not the LED, poor soldering and very cheap quality transformers that destroy the bulb in planned obsolescence by running them too hot and burning them out. If you want LEDs that don’t die, get a fixture that attaches to a quality converter, and give it 80% of the power. Will actually last kinda forever.
qb connect
qb connect 7 ヶ月 前
I swear Amazon practiced planned obsolescence this past prime day 2022. I never heard the phrase until this video. But I thought it too coincidental that the Firestick I had for 4yrs never had any problems until a month before Prime day '22. It started 'glitching', and by the time Prime day came it didn't work at all. In my stubbornness I refused to buy a new one, feeling like I was being taken. Out of spite I bought a Roku instead. I hope they both don't eventually form a 'cartel'. 🤷🏾‍♂️
Orobas 66
Orobas 66 3 ヶ月 前
Anyone who even thinks planned obsolescence is the correct way to get repeat customers is wrong on so many levels. The correct way would be not only by providing parts to end users and repair or maintenance services but branching out to make goods that must be replaced regularly such as food, beauty products, cleaning products and office supplies and reduce positions in manufacturing in favour of other positions in the company when something isn't selling as much as it use to. They could also make the chassis of something modular so panels can be changed when the style changes without wasting everything for a different colour or style. They would also have no choice but to bring back hand making and make things slower instead of pushing out unfinished products in time for jesus simps to celebrate genocide. If planned obsolescence never became a thing, we would have an amazing used market where we would be going to for most of our things and the companies who made the products would be getting our money for goods that have to be replaced often and not seen as evil entities that hate the earth. 15:52 We have not reached the point of an everlasting light bulb, they standardise the life span of those to by over volting the LEDs, you can significantly prolong the lifespan by replacing a resistor with a different value that lowers the voltage while barely effecting brightness.
SoulfoodFight
SoulfoodFight 2 年 前
Imagine the trillions of tons of unnecessary garbage planned obsolescence has caused our planet, the poisoning of our rivers and air and soil... It's so backward and disgusting. 😞
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
Siluda
Siluda 10 ヶ月 前
@kristoffer3000 better than a planned economy on socialism :)
No No
No No 10 ヶ月 前
There is no political solution. Turn your disgust into hate.
Star Wise
Star Wise 10 ヶ月 前
Greedy men don't think of the future and sustainability as a whole. Only themselves. If people in America realized you don't get a break when you die, you are reborn into the mess you left behind, they'd be more responsible now.
Cable Waffel
Cable Waffel 8 ヶ月 前
And all Apple and other tech companies would need to do to prolong device lifespans is sprinkle in a bit of software and make their hardware slightly easier to repair. I think Tesla is gonna be the new Apple when it comes to planned obsolescence. They have the worst repair program of any car manufacturer, yet they're the most advanced and valuable one.
Cable Waffel
Cable Waffel 4 ヶ月 前
@Jack Paul, that's very true. I was more thinking along the lines of prolonged OS updates, which Apple already does a very good job with.
Jack Paul
Jack Paul 4 ヶ月 前
apple would actually just have to unsprinkle a bit of software. they put additional effort into bricking anything once someone else owns it.
Freffo
Freffo 6 ヶ月 前
I actually like to repair my tech that i buy. I never throw anything away. Maybe a sentimental thing. I have old Apple devices from 2010 and forward that i keep alive. The bad and sad thing for more recent phone devices from Apple(can't speak for other tech brands) is that if i switch out certain components that are made from 3rd party(correct word?) some features does no longer work correctly. Like battery health and Face-ID for those who use those things. So if Apple could have their original parts for sale i would actually be happy to get a fully working phone alive again with all the original features. A device can be alive for so much longer than people think. Safety updates is the only issue really that would end a device. But it can be used for other things. My Macbook is still going strong as my portable workstation for art using Photoshop CS6. SSD, more RAM and a new battery made that device "new". Sorry for the bad english. I hope people can read it :D
jimmy king
jimmy king 9 ヶ月 前
Very informative video. However, to your mention of how an LED bulb will outlast the older bulbs, it’s actually not the case in my experience. All my bulbs were replaced with LED bulbs and per every single bulb, they’ve gone bad/died and needed replacements just under 2 years on average, whereas the older bulbs lasted well over 2 years on average.
Jack Paul
Jack Paul 4 ヶ月 前
notice the claim that LED bulbs last longer than fluorescent bulbs itself is predicated on the fact that fluorescent bulbs were overengineered to fail in the first place. that's more of this at work. they have junk connectors and circuitry. also they are overloaded by design to cause burnout. if you can figure out a way to buy the ones listed as twice your wattage and run them half power, that would help some. if they were both engineered to last, i wonder which technology would even be more durable.
residentslipper
residentslipper 7 ヶ月 前
hey I know no one will see this comment at this point but I just want to say thank you for the education and helping all of us think a little bit differently about mega monopolized corporations! Just thanks!
Jonathan LaPointe
Jonathan LaPointe 7 ヶ月 前
I can't believe they don't have that light bulb protected by at least a wire cage or something.
tomfreddy
tomfreddy 7 ヶ月 前
Also someone mentioned the base 10 numbering system which reminds me how ages ago I made a base 100 number system the was psychologically relevant. I wasn't going to talk about it till it was finished but it got stolen along with my string cipher. So now unless I want someone else passing my work off as their own I am forced to clarify how the number nouns abstracted away from the previously highly emotionally influential number names and each number started with the "m" sound and ended with one of the 11 distinct consonants with 1 of 9 vowels in the middle. Actually I've made a great deal of things all of which have been thus far stolen. I also mentioned a while ago how I thought electrons were just small clouds of negative energy and photons were just smaller dislodged bits of them. Also how the big bang theory is probably impossible on account of when a singularity would be likely to reach critical mass, the frequency of singularities in the universe and a few other things not coming to mind atm. I also had new time system that was going to be better likely by a lot but it will probably just get extracted from me so there is no point explaining anymore.
tomfreddy
tomfreddy 7 ヶ月 前
Don't know any as fact but I think it's probable given my experiences and current lack of education.
Potato
Potato 11 ヶ月 前
Imagine just how advanced we would be if it wasn't for business practices like this
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
MisterHeroman
MisterHeroman 10 ヶ月 前
@Clark Potter That's not relevant to capitalism. In other words, it can still happen with capitalism.
DrPogo
DrPogo 10 ヶ月 前
Capitalism!
Kaitlynn Golsan
Kaitlynn Golsan 10 ヶ月 前
All because of capitolism unfortunately
ihazdaforks
ihazdaforks 10 ヶ月 前
@RawDog People still upgrade their phone's every year even though they work fine. It would create a lot less waste.
Sean Abbott
Sean Abbott 5 ヶ月 前
Check the lifespan of LED lights for your house and compare that to the 100k hour life they were originally touted for. I don't know if it's an issue of higher strain on higher lumen LEDs, building cheaply in bulk, or built-in obsolescence, but they aren't the wonder product I originally remember them being referred to.
tubestick00
tubestick00 7 ヶ月 前
If Apple made a light bulb... it would not fit into existing sockets, require you to fully rewire your house with apple cables, spy on you in your sleep, and need replacing every few days
samudragupt473
samudragupt473 ヶ月 前
Coming to LED lights, in india I have observed every LED bulb is lasting for just 1.25 year of regular use Some last longer , the ones that are used less ... We have a policy to write installation dates on bulbs and have observed this in our factory
Beux J
Beux J 6 ヶ月 前
This is entirely tangental, but they used to sell these plastic lightbulb shells which clipped on in 2 halves, encasing the bulb completely and changing the light colour. They were super cool, but I haven't seen them anywhere in over 10 years.
Miloslav Jungmann
Miloslav Jungmann 3 ヶ月 前
Thanks for breaking the planned obsolescence blackout. I hate having to buy and pollute six or seven times more than required, car, washer, toaster, everything! not to mention the waste of my work, and my life!
Abner Mascarenhas
The worst part of planned obsolescence is that it affects the environment negatively ....waste produced by us would be far less if it wasn't for this stupid money making strategy
Orobas 66
Orobas 66 3 ヶ月 前
If it wasn't for stupid money making strategies, we wouldn't have plastic and everything would be so premium feeling and well made if only everyone was educated about the importance of caring for the earth.
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
Bellator Dei
Bellator Dei 年 前
That's the least concern, this impoverishes everyone and is halting innovations
Andre Ugland
Andre Ugland 2 ヶ月 前
Led spot lights lasts alot longer than the powersupply. Half the powersupplies for 30 lights didnt work in an apartment from 2014. Problem was the new drivers didnt make the same light so had to replace them all to get the same light.
Mike Collins
Mike Collins 6 ヶ月 前
I have a coffe machine that has broken down, and in searching for instructions to dismantle it, I have come across a few more of the same model with exactly the same fault. I have partly dismantled it, but it is difficult to get into without breaking it. However, I can see that there is a circuit card in it - but I can only see it from its edge, and I can't get it out. If it turns out that there is a microprocessor chip on it, I will be very suspicious about this being a case of planned obsolescence. Planned obsolescence is easy to program onto a processor.
Keyona Lyles
Keyona Lyles 7 ヶ月 前
Because of the way us humans are. We have no idea how to keep things clean and make it stay that way. I am listening to one of those 'cozy coffee shop' ambiances right now and the first thing that came to mind on why places that look that well-kept can't stay that way is because of popularity reasons. Nice places would get crowded with people, who may not be as respectful as they should be when disposing of their stuff and handling their stuff. People bring their children and don't watch them as they run everywhere disturbing people. Some people bring their pets in doors. Not everybody who pulled up made sure to take a shower and dust the mud and dirt off their feet from the rain. Heck, forget about jazz music playing in the background, people are yelling, arguing, fighting, or just simply talking. It would look more like a Waffle House than a cozy relaxing place to just chill out.
Martin Kykta
Martin Kykta 29 日 前
I enjoyed the video and the point it made about the part planned obsolescence plays in manufacturing. One point should be cleared up. The bulb is operating at 4 watts instead of 60 watts because the filament is thinner due to evaporation. The resistance is higher and the operating current is less. The operating voltage is still 120 volts.
Cernunnos
Cernunnos 7 ヶ月 前
Planned obsolescence was something I figured out when I was a young boy. But I still didn't entirely like. I understood the situation but didn't totally agree with this being apart of almost everything we have. Let the situation and consumer make that market decision. Is this something I want to change every now and then? I always liked the idea of continual innovation -including producing entirely new markets and products. Fix the price based on it's longevity, production, and want?
Alyenbird
Alyenbird 年 前
My most recent experience with planned obsolescence: Most laptops typically can be unscrewed at the bottom and opened up. It is necessary to do this every few months to blow the dust and hair out of your computer fan with some compressed air- especially if you have pets. If you don't ever clean that dust and hair out, the fan slowly gets clogged up, ceases to work properly, and your computer can become dangerously hot. A lot of people are unaware that this maintenance needs to be done at all- which is a win for the company that sold the computer when it overheats and breaks. However, apparently some computer manufacturers don't even want those who know they need to clean their laptops to clean them. A relative of mine recently noticed that her laptop was overheating and that the fan is clogged. So she turned it over to unscrew it and clean it out. There were no screw holes. She called the professionals, and the professionals told her that model of laptop could not be cleaned. It was *glued* together rather than screwed. From now on anytime my family goes laptop shopping, we will be checking the bottom for screws!
BlackFaceGaming
BlackFaceGaming 3 ヶ月 前
there IS endless specific resources like oil for example, the old wells that were empty 10yrs ago are filling up again oil isn't "fossils". its a biproduct of earths weight crushing itself and turning into a liquid that's combustible
Gïlda Nonofyabiznez
@Lucas van hamburg my thoughts exactly
Gïlda Nonofyabiznez
@Anthony Grimaldi "sounds like you're using your laptops in an extremely dusty area" you're saying it like he's a fault??? Sometimes you can't help, I live in shithole town where most of the streets aren't even paved, so naturally there's always a lot of dust flying around. Tf am I gon do apart from just coping?
Lucas van hamburg
@Anthony Grimaldi Old small blocks are easy to rebuild and there is a huge aftermarket for them. I'm pretty sure the ls series fits rigth to the transmission that the old small blocks would be fitted to, so you don't know how many old american cars are driving around with modern engines. German cars were great back in the day when people owned their cars for more than the warranty... I have a golf 3 diesel myself. Now they are trash just look at the price depreciation.
marshalllucky
always if youre old compter it is broken then why no just buy there new laptops? they are no verr expensives :-(
Baldr
Baldr 6 ヶ月 前
This says a lot about the society we live in
James Maloy
James Maloy 2 日 前
You could always join an ahmish community
mk VV
mk VV ヶ月 前
@Gentello Yeah, I think the abundance of resources reveals certain aspects of human behavior. An abundance, perhaps, that used to be very limited--to aristocracies and above. And we see some of those stereotypical behaviors writ large.
Gentello
Gentello 4 ヶ月 前
It does not surprise me, look to the history.
Kitty T Kat
Kitty T Kat 4 ヶ月 前
Thirty years ago, I was selling bulbs that burned from 5-7 yrs. Farmers especially loved them. It was the postage that they objected to, and I couldn't blame them. It was a ridiculous amount and the company closed after thirty very successful years.
Walli
Walli 3 ヶ月 前
When I think of this stuff I always have to think of my old triangle lineal of my mother. The print on it was encased in the plastic and it was way thinker than the new ones. Nowadays you have to buy a new one every year because the print gets rubbed off.
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