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Miscellaneous Myths: The Zodiac

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Thanks to longtime patron Volt for requesting this topic!

We know their names! We know their symbols! We know there's a truly staggering number of websites dedicated to their stereotypical personality traits! But what do we know about their stories? Let's discuss!

FUN FACT I GLOSSED OVER IN THE VIDEO: like I said, it's REALLY hard to determine when these constellations entered Greece. Most people set the date at 300ish, when Eudoxus codified the Greek calendar based on the Babylonian one - but that clashes with the fact that Heracles's labors predate that by at least three centuries, and they've had those zodiacal themes since that lost epic poem was initially written. We know, therefore, that the babylonian zodiac entered greece between Homer's time (when he conspicuously didn't mention them - and neither did Hesiod in his Astronomia) and Peisander's time (author of the lost Heracleia), basically the interval between 800 and 600 CE. The phoenician traders carrying that info is a reasonable assumption, especially considering how important the stars are to sailors navigating at night. But it is WILD to me how hard this is to research and how nobody seems to have really explored the timeline here!

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Josh
Josh 7 時間 前
“Wow that’s such a Gemini thing to sa-“ “I will cut you.” I’m dying. 🤣
Ruben op den Kelder
Ruben op den Kelder 18 時間 前
There was no time-travelling goat-fish. It was a barn owl or basking shark all along
Ruben op den Kelder
Ruben op den Kelder 19 時間 前
While I was never abandoned, I find your opening to be very relatable. Taurus was always my favorite to look at. Though I might be biased on that one.
Blaze648
Blaze648 19 時間 前
"The brooding hidden figure the corner is probably a good guy" My black cat in the corner of my room: 👁👄👁
Thee ArtSee🎗
Thee ArtSee🎗 2 日 前
Only if people were into Christianity like this.
The Old Beekeeper
This is such a good video. And I actually love Astrology haha! But it's so informational and well made and I appreciate her humor a lot
Fear Of The Chip Pan
As a Capricorn, I wish the time travelling goat-fish was real
Ukraineball Aviation
16:26 "WHERE'S THE TIME-TRAVELING GOATMAN INTERNET?!" Me, an Undertale fan: hmmm.... Are you talking about Asriel/Flowey?
Every Little Flaw
Glad to have a sighn of a goat fish. And nah fam only the people who have the goat fish sighn know about him
Phillip Allen
Phillip Allen 8 日 前
A big sincere thanks for these videos. You, dear creator (or should that be creatrix?), are one of the most genuinely creative artists working on youtube. Every aspect of your videos simply bursts with innovation, intelligence, creativity and just plain fun. Yes, fun. Some youtube creators seem to have overlooked this vital element. But not you. Your videos are the most fun to watch. And while you are making these fun experiences, you're teaching us - likely more than ever we learned in those pseudo-penitentiaries, colloquially named "schools". Yours are, in fact, one of the very few videos I watch repeatedly; they are just that marvelous. Again, thank you kindly for your wonderful work. (liked & subbed)
Sylveon doesgames
very night vale esc horoscope there red
•Superpancake•
I’m a Taurus And this is MY food 🥐🥖🍞🥞🧇🥓🍔🌭🍟🌯🌮🥪🥘🍜🍲🍣🍱🍤🍙🍘🍨🍦🥧🧁🍰🍭🍬🍫🍿🍩🍪 and drinks ☕️🧋🥤
Crunkles1119
Crunkles1119 11 日 前
I was trying to remember what music Red was using in the background. It finally clicked; it’s the music from The Witcher 3 trailer, the one where he fights the vampire.
Jiyon Banerjee
Jiyon Banerjee 12 日 前
Could you make a Zodiacs Of The World playlist on your channel?
Active Advocate
Active Advocate 15 日 前
I shall call her...Fishtar. And I hope she doesn't strike me down. Then again, I'm not a Hindu, but I DO have a tacit belief in Mother Kali as a symbol of feminism, protection, and fearlessness. So, okay, who wins in a fight? Ishtar or Mother Kali?
my dude,
my dude, 17 日 前
"I am 85% sure that there is no time travelling goatfish in Greek mythology" is probably my favorite OSP quote yet.
Papa Shpee
Papa Shpee 17 日 前
I don’t believe in astrology Because I’m a Cancer, and we’re a skeptical bunch
SwordofSeals33
SwordofSeals33 18 日 前
I would love to see your breakdown of the Chinese Zodiac
Anime Fan
Anime Fan 18 日 前
I never noticed Arieș was small even though im an aries
Millie
Millie 20 日 前
♐️
Zodiac忍び
Zodiac忍び 22 日 前
ganymede fulfilled both purposes . cup bearing and "cup bearing"
Iliyan Stoychev
Iliyan Stoychev 23 日 前
girls be like: our zodiac signs dont vide, sorry, bye. me: da fuq!? or girl: what zodiac sign are you? me: gemini girl: bye, have a nice day.
SketchElf
SketchElf 24 日 前
I'm really looking forward to seeing a video on the Chinese zodiac, whenever you choose to make it! :D
frigginjerk
frigginjerk 25 日 前
"I'm like 85 percent sure that there's no time-traveling goat-fish in Greek mythology" is not a sentence I expected to hear today.
Starring
Starring 25 日 前
"time travelling goat fish goes maaaha"
Zachary Davis
Zachary Davis 27 日 前
I now need to know the Mayan zodiac….
DRUM LAB
DRUM LAB 28 日 前
Libra is Associated with Maat . Way before Julius Caesar was even born...
Nb Bats
Nb Bats 28 日 前
I always thought that Aries was a ram, which I never really understood cause it looks nothing like one
Joseph Tapp
Joseph Tapp 29 日 前
How did you make the stars look so cool?
Lemon
Lemon 29 日 前
We didn't have goat fish, we have crocodile🐊
maciekx10
maciekx10 ヶ月 前
So what I retained from this video is that the galaxy is in fact NOT in Orions belt but in BOOB!
Umang Sharma
Umang Sharma ヶ月 前
Am I the only one who thought it would be about the zodiac killer? 😅
YinYan7
YinYan7 ヶ月 前
Does anyone know the music between 0:06 and 0:48 please? It just sounds beautiful
Daniela Ayers
Daniela Ayers ヶ月 前
Great video, I love how informative and easy to digest your videos are! Thank you for making them 😊 Could you please make a Mayan constellation video??
Infinity Albi
Infinity Albi ヶ月 前
18:53
Zachary Limon
Zachary Limon ヶ月 前
Why did I look at the fish/rope and assume they were ovaries? That’d make sense for Aphrodite right? Lol
Калина Петкова
Anyone who wants to see red go on about other zodiacs say I (but only if she wants to, cause it seems like a lot of work)
itxsui
itxsui ヶ月 前
I love astrology but like- my mind started drifting off halfway through and when I zoned back in the video was almost finished-
Emma Burzynski
Emma Burzynski ヶ月 前
If you ever redo your Heracles video like your current videos this video opened me up to the realization that Heracles and Krishna seem to have some interesting parallels, specifically how Krishna has the story of the universe being in his mouth and Heracles has his boob milk galaxy
TahiShengaming
TahiShengaming ヶ月 前
Hilarious thing is, Aquarius is considered to be an air sign in astrology lol
Dreamer Rose
Dreamer Rose ヶ月 前
I like the association between Virgo and Persephone. For purely nerd reasons tied to Saint Seiya and a fanfic I'm developing in my head.
alarmlessRifleman [AR]
If anyone really wants to see a time travelling goat-fish, y'all should read Homestuck. Her Imperious Condescension _does_ kinda fit the bill. Kinda. I mean, she's a fish, she did a bit of time-travelling here and there while serving Lord English and she has long ass horns.
Dalek Sex
Dalek Sex ヶ月 前
Red: Following the path of the sun Me: OMG 420 PRAISE IT
Benjamin Brewer
Benjamin Brewer ヶ月 前
After binge watching your channel for a couple of days, i have come to the conclusion, i freaking love you guys!111
SammyGem
SammyGem ヶ月 前
The thirteenth zodiac sign is now technically being honored. They changed the dates. I am now a Leo rather than a Virgo. Pretty cool!
MinusPi
MinusPi ヶ月 前
9:40 Heracles be thicc
DarkSnowman13
DarkSnowman13 ヶ月 前
As someone born under the fish goat, I want my time travel powers
ethan harper
ethan harper ヶ月 前
With kukjajta people of Australia associated Gemini with there creator gods of there Wati-kutjara which are two humanoid monitors lizard with boomerangs
Ameyro
Ameyro ヶ月 前
Will you be offended if I say you give off air sun sign energy and I called it before you said you were a Gemini..
SpicyDay
SpicyDay ヶ月 前
You sound so smart and you may have made me want to be a history and mythology major
Tanashima Sedra
Tanashima Sedra ヶ月 前
Look up Sidereal
Iphigenia
Iphigenia ヶ月 前
Please do the Chinese/eastern Zodiac next
Demonchild27
Demonchild27 ヶ月 前
I love zodiacs or Zodiac and Greek mythology- Ophicus srry if spelt wrong is rlly cool :)
Permafunk
Permafunk ヶ月 前
Red: *calls the Zodiac a myth* White twitter girls: *angrily punching the air*
yu nishinoya ⚡
yu nishinoya ⚡ ヶ月 前
I have a book on astrology, let me try and explain the stories for each zodiac so I can waste my time These are on the Greek stories, not the babylonian's
yu nishinoya ⚡
yu nishinoya ⚡ ヶ月 前
I love wasting 57 minutes of my time on astrology
yu nishinoya ⚡
yu nishinoya ⚡ ヶ月 前
Pisces- this is actually my sign, believe it or not. Okay so, Aphrodite and Eros turned into fish to escape Typhon, who was having a temper tantrum, and had a rope attached to their tails so they wouldn't lose eachother. Soon after, they were hatched out of eggs when Typhon got defeated by Zeus and Pan (and maybe Hermes)
yu nishinoya ⚡
yu nishinoya ⚡ ヶ月 前
Sagittarius- hello to all my friends who could never spell Sagittarius right without autocorrect. Anyways, Sagittarius represents Chiron, a centaur who was teacher of both Heracles and Apollo's son, who's name i can't remember. Anyways, while trying to *murder* mischievous centaurs, Heracles shoots Chiron. To make it even worse, the arrow tip was covered in poisonous venom, so Chiron is just dying. And he was put into the sky as this philosophical comedian that for some reason, I can relate to,yet can't get along with
yu nishinoya ⚡
yu nishinoya ⚡ ヶ月 前
Scorpio- I thought these stories were gonna get more boring, but Scorpio is actually more interesting. Scorpio represents a scorpion that chased after a huge creep, Orion, who had fell in love with the virgin goddess, Artemis (it was actually requited love, but Zeus promised her she would never marry so yeah), and im pretty sure Orion killed the scorpion, so Apollo had to "trick" Artemis into killing Orion. The scorpion and Orion were put into the sky, to show their Never ending chase.
yu nishinoya ⚡
yu nishinoya ⚡ ヶ月 前
Libra- okay so, Gaea isn't Astraea's grandmother, more somewhere around her great great grandmother, and Astraea represents justice as well, just like her mother Themis??Anyways, apparently this woman had scales (not mermaid scales, weight scales)and those were also put into the sky as Libra
B-List Jester
B-List Jester ヶ月 前
Red talking about capricorn: F**k you goatman!
Catalina Caro
Catalina Caro ヶ月 前
One of the things i never understood is why the fuck aquiarius is an air sign, IS MEANT TO REPRESENT A GUY THAT TRANSPORTS WATER, IS BECAUSE HE BREATHES? LIKE THE REST OF THE CREATURES OF THE ZODIAC?
The Firebird, Ph03n1x
This barely related to the topic but the plough symbol from the word Mulapin kinda looks like bunk beds.
Landon Bartrum
Landon Bartrum ヶ月 前
I’m Aquarius
Socks
Socks ヶ月 前
Could the girdle of hippolyta labor be linked with Virgo? Cause... it's a lady? And hippolyta is a lady? I mean it's not really more of a stretch than the Sagittarius connection. Edit: and the stymphalian birds, a reference to Pisces? If it got imported as the tail of the great swallow, it might have gotten referenced in the labors of heracles before it got solidified as a pair of fish in the general Greek zodiac
Light
Light ヶ月 前
PSA: your horoscope is not meant for your Sun sign, It's meant for your ascendant sign ex. If your Sun sign is Libra but your Ascendant sign is Virgo, You'd want to look at Horoscopes relating to Virgo since the Ascendant governs relationships to life around you. Sun sign only represents expressions not personality as a whole.
Justin Yang
Justin Yang 2 ヶ月 前
"If you're less..." LESS WHAT RED THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZY I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT THOSE LAST WORDS WHAT WERE THEY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Charles Barnett
Charles Barnett 2 ヶ月 前
Coyotes don't eat ya. Its the Dire Coyotes that eat ya.
ryfors
ryfors 2 ヶ月 前
Looking forward to the Chinese zodiac :)
Jesse Richards
Jesse Richards 2 ヶ月 前
Finally more to the zodiac than what we knew
LuigiBoi42
LuigiBoi42 2 ヶ月 前
The Time-Traveling Goatfish sounds as complicated as Kang the Conqueror.
Shelbi Durham
Shelbi Durham 2 ヶ月 前
The girdle (11:21) could be part of Orion’s Belt.
deanna smith
deanna smith 2 ヶ月 前
absolutely adore the background music on your vids
Grimone
Grimone 2 ヶ月 前
Nonono...go back. Show me more goatfish :D
Mr.Crafty
Mr.Crafty 2 ヶ月 前
Don’t chase the shiny briefcase it’s never worth it
Garrett White
Garrett White 2 ヶ月 前
Okay but for real, kid Red in a jacket at 0:17 looks like a weathered detective going in for another shift and they're like two days from retirement
Nik Pershing
Nik Pershing 2 ヶ月 前
Loved the chekhov's gun bit in the outro.
KokoroKaisen
KokoroKaisen 2 ヶ月 前
id love a vid on mayan zodiacs
theoretical_chaos
theoretical_chaos 2 ヶ月 前
Spaaaaace it's so cool
Jonathan Holliday
Jonathan Holliday 2 ヶ月 前
I remember coming across an Egyptian equivalent to Aquarius. The rain god, tefnut
Limlamthetimtam __
Limlamthetimtam __ 2 ヶ月 前
Loving the Witcher music in the background
dumb god
dumb god 2 ヶ月 前
The zodiac the most bullsht 14 year old girl think
Aquacyanide
Aquacyanide 2 ヶ月 前
...? the zodiac is constellations in the night sky. They're actual things. I think you're referring to is astrology
Marc Brann
Marc Brann 2 ヶ月 前
So you say Capricorn took you on a time travel.. ? 😳
Krazy Banshee
Krazy Banshee 2 ヶ月 前
BABY RED
Akul’s Inator
Akul’s Inator 2 ヶ月 前
I don’t know about goat fish but there was a cow fish that if it’s entrails wet burned all of the gods would die
Barney Stinson
Barney Stinson 2 ヶ月 前
*0 mentions of my boy Hermes Trismegistus* 😐
kwreck0022
kwreck0022 2 ヶ月 前
One word I didn't hear: Dendera
T
T 2 ヶ月 前
This is why I love where I live I see all the stars every night
Ivor Buela
Ivor Buela 2 ヶ月 前
Red's unscripted ranting is the best part.🤣🤣
Willow Maiden
Willow Maiden 2 ヶ月 前
I just got saw this again and I looked at the release… I thought it was 3 months ago… NO ITS 8 MONTHS AGO
8D2BFREE
8D2BFREE 2 ヶ月 前
I love how this fast talking historian gives my whiplash. Also the gemini comet at the start hit close to home. totally sharer the sentiment.
Evan Waters
Evan Waters 2 ヶ月 前
16:31 i'm losing my mind, what is the song playing in the background here???
Ungawo Mame
Ungawo Mame 2 ヶ月 前
How did u know
Brian Xolot
Brian Xolot 2 ヶ月 前
"So next time someone asks why is Aquarius a dang water pitcher you can say the same reason pokemon told me a riceball was a jelly doughnut"
Carter Dunlap
Carter Dunlap 2 ヶ月 前
Some Greeks be like: The gods turned into fish and escaped Typhon
Owen McIntosh
Owen McIntosh 2 ヶ月 前
playing halo has conditioned me to be afraid of space rings so i do not like the zodiac diagram
Sweets are in
Sweets are in 2 ヶ月 前
As a virgo i love the idea of a axe welding women that is a plant goddess.
Rachel Mavy
Rachel Mavy 2 ヶ月 前
Make sure to fire the gun before the end of the third act
JesseTheEternal
JesseTheEternal 2 ヶ月 前
Just gotta say for Scorpio it is one of the oldest historical zodiac and the Greeks attribute alot of stories to that one specifically. Scorpio is effectively the hitman of the Greek pantheon. Asclepius (Ophiucus) Kills Scorpio after Scorpio comes down from the sky in a rage after Orion was resurrected, Aquila who was one of the original choices for Scorpio's placement in the zodiac is replaced again by Scorpio with the help of the fable "The beetle and the eagle" where I SWEAR the original story was the Scorpion and the Eagle, and finally Saggitarius (Chiron when referred with Scorpio) Is aiming his bow at the heart of the Scorpion Antares. These three constellations are depicted as holding Scorpio at bay so that Orion can continue running across the sky away from Scorpio. "Antares" Also if I remember correctly refers to 'Rival of Ares'. Later Scorpio's Claws were chopped off for undetermined reasons myth wise. Likely to slow him down. They were given to the Goddess Astrea and became her scales of Justice Libra. Instead of being the Goddess of Purity and Innocence she became the Goddess of Justice afterwards. Am having trouble finding the associated myth. The Symbols for Scorpio and Virgo are very similar due to the tied myths likely. All of Scorpio's myths revolve around Judgement, Vengeance, and Rebirth. -Early morning ramble over-
JesseTheEternal
JesseTheEternal 2 ヶ月 前
Also forgot slight mention of Orion shooting Taurus while it was asleep and the claiming he was the greatest hunter ever to exist to Artemis. Which either Artemis or Appollo send Scorpio to kill Orion. Scorpio was already miffed a child of Gaia was killed by Orion so he was very enthusiastic from there. Another add on. Either Artemis or Scorpio kill Orion depending on the many variations of the myth.
AJ
AJ 2 ヶ月 前
Scorpio is only incidentally linked to Orion, and many of the Greek constellations are similarly incidental. The corresponding myth that accompanies Scorpio is that of Persephone’s descent into the underworld, hence the darkness. Scorpio is ruled by the 8th house- death and resurrection (also riches), and is ruled by Pluto (Hades/Aidoneus/etc. Underworld God) in modernity, but was previously associated with Mars (or Mors aka Thanatos). The cycle of death and resurrection is the theme of Persephone’s descent (the seasons). Scorpio is the only sign of the zodiac with five symbols: The Spider, the Scorpion, the snake (or dragon), the wolf, and the Phoenix. The Spider and Scorpion are dark symbols, the snake in antiquity represents change/transformation, the wolf, solitude. Finally the Phoenix, which cyclically transcends death by rising from its ashes. I believe there is a book by Starsky (?) that outlines the various myths actually attributed to the signs vs. just the symbols. I could be wrong though, it could fall into the “Greek mythology fanfic era.”
Stephen Cornell
Stephen Cornell 2 ヶ月 前
What about time wasting men who start at Goat-fish?...
Cole Powered
Cole Powered 2 ヶ月 前
Red if you get eaten by a coyote your bloodline is weak and you deserve it, they’re like barely bigger than a cocker spaniel
Lucas Neves
Lucas Neves 2 ヶ月 前
Aaaa♊
Iryan Madayana
Iryan Madayana 2 ヶ月 前
Upvote for the time-travelling goat-fish rant
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