How Hidden Technology Transformed Bowling

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Bowling has been reinvented many times over the past seven thousand years but especially in the last 30. This is the fascinating physics of balls, oil, lane and pins. A portion of this video was sponsored by Salesforce. Go to salesforce.com/veritasium to learn more.

Huge thanks to Steve Kloempken and all of Storm Bowling for letting us visit and get a glimpse into the crazy world of bowling.
Huge thanks to legends Chris Barnes and Pete Weber for taking the time to bowl with us.
Huge thanks to Creative Electron for their help with getting the bowling balls X-rayed. Check out their work here: creativeelectron.com/
Thanks to Ron Hatfield and James Freeman for their help with research. Check out their great book, Bowling Beyond the Basics: ve42.co/HatfieldFreeman
Thanks to the United States Bowling Congress (USBC) and Professional Bowlers Association (PBA) for their help with accessing archival data and footage.
Special thanks to Rod Cross for physics consultation.
Thanks to Bill Guszczo for giving us the idea to make this video in the first place.

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References:
Freeman, James, and Ron Hatfield. Bowling beyond the Basics: What's Really Happening on the Lanes, and What You Can Do about It. BowlSmart, 2018. -- ve42.co/HatfieldFreeman
N. Stremmel, P. Ridenour and S. Sterbenz. “Identifying the Critical Factors That Contribute to Bowling Ball Motion on a Bowling Lane.” United States Bowling Congress, 2008. -- ve42.co/BallMotionASQ
USBC Equipment Specifications and Certification Team. “Ball Motion Study: Phase I and II Final Report.” United States Bowling Congress, 2008. -- ve42.co/USBCBallMotion
Brettingen, Patrick, and Nicki Mours. “USBC static weight limits remain relevant.” United States Bowling Congress, 2011. -- ve42.co/USBCStaticWeight
Article on lane oil origins -- ve42.co/OilOrigins
Luna, Richard. “Bruce Pluckhahn says there's a little bit of bowling…” United Press International Archives, 1984. -- ve42.co/BowlingHistory
Johnson, Brody D. “The Physics of Bowling: How good bowlers stay off the straight and narrow.” St. Louis University. -- ve42.co/JohnsonPhysicsPpt
Talamo, Jim. “The Physics of Bowling Balls.” -- ve42.co/TalamoPhysicsPpt
Thompson, Ted. “Breakdown and Carrydown - Then and Now.” Kegel. 2012. -- ve42.co/ThompsonKegel
Frohlich, Cliff. “What Makes Bowling Balls Hook?” American Journal of Physics, vol. 72, no. 9, 2004, pp. 1170-1177., doi.org/10.1119/1.1767099. -- ve42.co/FrohlichHook
Article on bowling’s ranking in participatory sports -- ve42.co/BowlingRank
Speranza, Dan, and Dave Nestor. “Initial Oil Absorption Results.” United States Bowling Congress, 2016. -- ve42.co/USBCOilAbsorption
D. Benner, N. Mours, and P. Ridenour. “Pin Carry Study: Bowl Expo 2009.” United States Bowling Congress, 2009. -- ve42.co/USBCPinCarry
Hopkins, D. C., and J. D. Patterson. “Bowling Frames: Paths of a Bowling Ball.” American Journal of Physics, vol. 45, no. 3, 1977, pp. 263-266., doi.org/10.1119/1.11005. -- ve42.co/HopkinsPath
Normani, Franco. “The Physics of Bowling.” Real World Physics Problems. -- ve42.co/NormaniPhysics
Horaczek, Stan. “The insides of pro bowling balls will make your head spin.” Popular Science, 2020. -- ve42.co/HoraczekSpin
House shot oil pattern -- ve42.co/HouseOil. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0.

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Special thanks to Patreon supporters: Andrew, Diffbot, Micah Mangione, MJP, Gnare, Nick DiCandilo, Dave Kircher, Edward Larsen, Burt Humburg, Blake Byers, Dumky, Evgeny Skvortsov, Meekay, Bill Linder, Paul Peijzel, Mac Malkawi, Michael Schneider, Big Badaboom, Ludovic Robillard, Jim buckmaster, fanime96, Juan Benet, Ruslan Khroma, Robert Blum, Richard Sundvall, Lee Redden, Vincent, Marinus Kuivenhoven, Alfred Wallace, Clayton Greenwell, Michael Krugman, Cy 'kkm' K'Nelson, Sam Lutfi, Ron Neal

Written by Derek Muller and Emily Zhang
Animations by Mike Radjabov and Ivy Tello
Filmed by Derek Muller, Trenton Oliver, and Emily Zhang
Edited by Trenton Oliver
SFX by Shaun Clifford
Additional video supplied by Getty Images
Music from Epidemic Sounds
Produced by Derek Muller, Petr Lebedev, and Emily Zhang

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Cory Granholm 年前

I thought I was bad at bowling personally, but now I know I'm bad at bowling scientifically. Thanks!

Impractical Student 24 日前

@S Perera huh?

S Perera 24 日前

You are good with the gutter scientifically.

Liam Murphy 27 日前

Brilliant.

Thomas Yates 29 日前

It's the reason I prefer skittles (9 pin bowling). In bowling, I know I'm doing it wrong. With skittles, you just wing the ball down the alley. It's a shame a lot of the pubs with skittle alleys in the UK have gone or are disappearing.

Impractical Student ヶ月前

Guess that means you've successfully learned how to adapt

Austin Woodworth 年前

As someone who has bowled all their life, this is by far the best explained, most accurate, representation of the factors that affect the game. Well done to the Veritasium team.

Tim 26 日前

@Evan Barnes I had the teal Rhino Pro as my first. That was a heck of a ball back in its day! As an avid duckpin bowler I converted to tenpin, inheriting the ball from a friend of mine who introduced me to the sport while in college. I fell in love with tenpin and quickly became a competitive 200+ avg. league bowler within a few years... with a few 299 games, one perfect game and a high set of 808 (289-299-220) to my credit. This was all between 1996 - 2006. I threw mostly Hammer bowling balls - the Hammer 3-D Offset was my favorite. Life circumstances derailed my aspirations to take bowling to the next level, but I met scores of great people and had great times along the way. Although we've lost touch over the years, to this day I still owe a bit of thanks to my college bowling buddy... Thanks, Danny!

Rick Rose ヶ月前

Weber is citing only the history of his own career which began in 1979. They have only been regularly oiling lanes since about 1970. I've been bowling in leagues since about 1961, in the era of his father. The strategy of the release was much different then. One didn't rely on an oiled lane.

Megat Basyarullah 4 ヶ月前

@Lauren_LMA just bought a hook ball myself. I went for medium performance balls which has a decent amount of hook but more controllable. Being a beginner with low speed and rpm its not suitable to get the high performance one yet cuz they hook a lot and really hard to control the shape down the lane

Evan Barnes 4 ヶ月前

@Lauren_LMA I used the Brunswick rhino as my first ball and it’s a really good starter ball I still use sometimes

Solace Easy 6 ヶ月前

I don't think so. He didn't talk about beer.

Nate Bergert 7 ヶ月前

I like how stressed Weber gets when asked to bowl on the dry lane.

Dr. Spatula 16 日前

@Reio Kimura Yes, however he explained what would happen to he didn't see a reason to demonstrate it, because it would just do exactly what he said

David Morris 22 日前

Well yeah I can imagine lol, that's like if someone asked me to do Judo without wearing a gi. Like sure I could do it, but it would be a completely different sport lol and a new learning curve. It's not a bad thing either. He's amazing at bowling a ball on an oiled lane, but not on a dry one. Don't think he wanted to look bad though.

Reio Kimura 26 日前

@All American Slacker He obviously know they are doing this for a video, the whole damn crew is back there but he still didn't want it to look bad on him lol

All American Slacker ヶ月前

I think he was just confused about why they wanted him to do it. If they had said, "We just want you to do it so our viewers can see the difference between a lane that's oiled and one that isn't," he might have been like, "Oh! Sure."

Bill Cook 7 ヶ月前

As I was cleaning out my mothers house after she died, I was really surprised by her bowling trophies. I never once saw her bowl, or do anything “sporting.” But apparently she had a 175 league average and a 200-something game. But his was in the late 60’s. After watching this video, I’m even more impressed.

E. Simon 29 日前

Bowling Queen

q1 1 ヶ月前

And to think, she did it without the technology of today 😎 .

lastuberman ヶ月前

I know an older gentleman that averaged 201 back in the late 60s. Newspapers came to interview him and take pictures. 175 was a very good average back then.

David Joelson 2 ヶ月前

175 is great - one of the goals in league bowling (back when i did it long ago) was to average a 500 "series" (score over the three games).... basically 166/167 per game. Well done mom! With a 175 average she would have bowled many 200+ games.

Aaron and Anne Logan 7 ヶ月前

I love how the pro bowler was practically insulted by Derek's request that he try bowling on the unoiled lane.

Mr Rooster 26 日前

That's Pete "The DCK WHOLE" Weber....he's known for this kind of attitude and it's why no one really likes him

Peter Gruhn 29 日前

@qwaszxcvbnm7 Miss on purpose.... On film.

Kaptain Komrade ヶ月前

@No adv As someone who has worked and grown up in the bowling industry for his entire life, I can tell you for certain that when you ask a league bowler to bowl on dry wood, they will fume. Give or take your occasional show off.

qwaszxcvbnm7 ヶ月前

@No adv Where your point of view is plausible, I think it makes more sense that yes, that guy was definitely upset. pay closer attention to his facial reactions to being asked. It wasn't a confused face, it was a "tf you just ask me??" face, and his whole demeaner changed afterwards, showing visual upset. On top of -again since he's someone who is known to very rarely not hit a strike. I fully understand taking offense. You ask someone to do something they don't like. They're gonna be upset. Even if its for an example.

Apex1962 ヶ月前

@Pollok Pooches Dog Walking His father, Dick Weber, was a class act. Pete Weber is the complete opposite.

beardedgarage 年前

This is absolutely wild. The idea that the technology behind bowling is as advanced as it is is fascinating and makes me rethink the sport. Different oil patterns, different balls, different internals, different surface materials. Awesome!

Zak Fahey 年前

Lesson learned: next time I go bowling, I'll ask the facility what their oil patterns are to optimize my strategy, and then after making a big show of that, subsequently lose.

1fa6s5f42 24 日前

@Jordan Shilander 10 things big bowling doesnt want you to know

Mr Rooster 26 日前

I can look at a lane and see the pattern...

Drunkle Joel 26 日前

How much oil in the gutter?

All American Slacker ヶ月前

@Harry Flashman Or it could just be that he doesn't know the pattern. The machines that oil lanes aren't cheap and the owners of the lane probably don't want employees screwing with them other than putting them on the lane and pressing power.

All American Slacker ヶ月前

@Jordan Shilander The shoe guy at the place I went to as a kid did tell me that stuff. He was the owner of the bowling alley and my bowling coach. I was in the league, and I could bowl there for free and only had to pay for the shoe rental, so my parents had me go to the bowling alley every day after school since it was basically day care for a dollar a day. No one ever even asked him to coach me. We were the only two there on weekday afternoons, so he started coaching just for something to do.

William Skatespeare 10 ヶ月前

I used to bowl a lot and in 28 minutes you have explained the game and technology very well. Kudos.

Sw1mm3rX 3 ヶ月前

Getting to bowl with Big Pete is a peak experience

MrSquidBrains ヶ月前

This is awesome and super interesting. I'd love to see the same analysis done on disc golf... recently took that up as a hobby and the way disc edge shapes affect aerodynamics and flight paths are really incredible.

chris hendricks 年前

As a Bowling Center mechanic since the early 80's I can tell you ABC ( American Bowling Congress) allowed us to change the way we oiled the lanes, it use to be no more than 3 units difference between each board of the lane or the award score did not pass and you had to oil the lane so far down. They changed it to allow us to do shorter oil patterns and then quit checking altogether after award scores were shot. Once they quit checking everyone changed the oil patterns to a "blocked shot" which is usually hardly any oil on first 10 boards of the lane then a large wall in the middle of lane so the ball rolls along the wall to the end of the oil then hooks into the pocket. It is like rolling your ball on a railroad track to the pocket. They still use blocked shots almost everywhere today. A blocked shot makes it super easy to score high, yes the bowling ball technology has increased since the 80's. I will tell you this , put out a difficult pattern where it is more a crown shot with no more than 3 units of oil difference between each board and most bowlers averages will drop by as much as 30 pins a game. In the end making the game easier was the death of the sport as most bowling alleys have closed in this area, there use to be 4 more than there is today and league bowling is at a all time low even before covid.

Mr Rooster 26 日前

Sport bowling is bigger than it's ever been and the scores are higher than they've ever been and that's on shots harder than what you're saying. AVG house bowlers and you are correct.

Apex1962 ヶ月前

In 1980, I was 18 and moved from the youth leagues to adult leagues. That year, the highest average in the men leagues just barely broke 200, he was a regional pro. He was also the only one who had rolled a 300 in our area. The top 20 bowlers averaged between 180 to 200. I was fortunate to have a good mentor, so I was averaging in the low 180’s. Those scores are a joke now, but those top 5-10 bowlers were damn good bowlers. Unfortunately, I am no longer able to bowl and didn’t get to experience the blocked lanes and the reactive resin balls. It makes wonder if I could still bowl today if I would have been averaging in the 2 teens and shooting 3s. I sure do miss it. 🙁

Skizilla 2 ヶ月前

I would argue that it was reactive resin that allowed scores to soar like they did in the 90's and not house shots. However, your point about sport and "crowned" shots are valid. You put a 2-0 average league bowler on a sport shot and they get humbled really quick. Even with that said scores are still too high due to ball technology, some houses are actually drying out the lanes to keep scores down because a lot of people can adjust "downward" which is why urethane is making such a comeback, and why the ABC is talking about not allowing resin/urethane changes mid set. Also what "killed" the sport wasn't scores being too high, it was matter of cost for houses. Say you have a 30 lane house in 2023, more than likely all of your equipment is probably from the 80's, and to retro-fit into new pin setters, ball returns, and scoring equipment costs over 1mil, you simply aren't going to re-coupe that cost at $3.00 a game and $25.00 line fees. So what happens? You start to have breakdowns, and you start to have issues with ball damage, and unreliable setters etc etc, so your leagues leave, so you have to start relying on open bowlers, which means you have to add things like "glow bowling" which further distracts from league priorities, combine that with the rise of corporate "houses" like Lucky Strike (who don't care about shot quality, in favor of making things look shiny) and houses die.

Astrecks ヶ月前

Fascinating! My bowling ball is a gyro-balanced 'Don Carter Gyro 2'. It's now 49 years old! I bought it and had it fitted in 1974 when I was 18 years old, and it cost me £21 back then. I've rarely used it since the end of the 70s. I'm old school and prefer manual projection scoring on league games.

SuSpence 年前

I feel like this should become a series. I would definitely watch more deep dives into sports like this.

Charlie ヶ月前

@Blood Bath and Beyond - Pop Goes Metal Covers We need to see Derek's demonstrations on that one!

Blood Bath and Beyond - Pop Goes Metal Covers 年前

How Hidden Technology Transformed Rochambeau

Viktor6665 年前

I wanna see one about tennis. Specifically why its scoring system is so fucked up.

$Bean Refraction$

Bean Refraction 年前

I agree

ME 年前

I'm impressed. As an experienced engineer, I thought I was going to get bored with this topic in the first minute. Your presentation is OUTSTANDING!! I would never have thought that technology like this would have been used, and all for a series of cascading reasons. Well done!!

YSBH 5 ヶ月前

How do you know when somebody is an engineer? Just wait, they'll tell you.

Jimmy Baldino 2 ヶ月前

Bowling's cool because it's one of the few sports out there where the governing body doesn't try and suppress innovation.

Skizilla 2 ヶ月前

It don't? So... No more counter holes, or "two handers" not being allowed to have three holes in the ball isn't messing with innovation? The ABC is one of the most out of touch governing bodies in sports.

StrikeWarlock 2 ヶ月前

The oldest sport with the most flexible meta.

Jetster007 2 ヶ月前

Can't believe you did all this stuff with Storm and didn't once mention how they make their bowling balls scented. Each model has its own scent (vanilla, cinnamon, apple, etc.)

Jr Mako 日前

@Aaron Anderson you mean the best brand in bowling? Lol

Colddekstar 20 日前

@Aaron Anderson the balls have a very minute scent, you can only smell it if you put your nose up close to it, Storm makes some good stuff, and the scents are just a fun extra thing they do

Colddekstar 20 日前

Bowled my first 125 after smelling a Storm ball, I'm certain that's what made me do well, not the 7 pin strike I got

Jetster007 26 日前

@Reio Kimura 😂 that'd be hilarious but no, it's only really noticeable when you pull it out of the bag before you start bowling.

Reio Kimura 26 日前

After rolling, will you be smelling some cooking oil?

joemrp05 4 ヶ月前

I watched this a year ago as a non-bowler and was fascinated. Now a year later I joined my first league and have become obsessed with learning more to get better, knowing much more on the subject I watched it again and am so impressed with how accurate the information is and how well organized it is for non-bowlers to understand. Love your videos, keep up the great work!

6th Wilbury 7 ヶ月前

The angle-of-attack breakdown at 8:30 in this video explains why I've never been good at bowling strikes. I always rolled a very straight ball. I could hit the 1-3 pocket pretty consistently, but the strike was still kind of rare. So a common game for me was 10 spares plus whatever that final ball was. And as such, I've never broken 200, yet there was a span when I'd routinely score in the 170-190 range.

Elijah Pipkin 3 ヶ月前

What bowling balls do you use?

Sam S. 年前

He really did not want to throw a bad strike on that dry lane.

Mr. Robertson ヶ月前

It's called being prideful

Kaheem Jay ヶ月前

His spin is probably muscle memory at this point.

kumar s 3 ヶ月前

😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

George Finney IV 8 ヶ月前

@Mike Lawson Pete Weber does not have respect im sorry but your wrong for putting those things together in a sentence ;)

George Finney IV 8 ヶ月前

Lol Pete's like hey, that's stupid but sometimes you just gotta show the people

Sueezedtight ヶ月前

I started bowling about 5 years ago (in retirement, golf off-season) and watched all I could on JPvid. I modelled my delivery on Chris Barnes' and it worked great. My average is now 186 and I roll 200+ regularly. Still working on those tough spares but the explanation about the 6 degrees and the pin strike was brilliant. Thanks.

Julio B 年前

Please do this for disc golf!!!! There is so much physics behind the sport and it would be wonderful to see a deep dive from you! Loved this video

Benjamin Bidlack ヶ月前

Unbelievably fantastic video on everything about... bowling. Life changing!!! Thorough, beautifully presented, produced. Thanks so much!!

Admiral Tymothy's Loot Chest 4 ヶ月前

I always wondered what the point of those 4 ball bags was. I just assumed it was so families could go bowling without having 4 different bags. I didn't realize the pros used different balls for different oil patterns. Makes a lot more sense that way.

Edward De Jong 9 ヶ月前

Great explanation of how much bowling balls have changed. No question that people are bowling better now. That Weber guy is amazing. When he was getting 300's, people would only get them very rarely.

Jonny- B 年前

I'm honestly surprised there's room in the bowling industry for 11 manufacturers. Insane.

Joshua Tootell 24 日前

I'm semi surprised about this info, but only a little. I'm pretty serious into mountain biking and people have a hard time grasping the idea of having multiple multi thousand dollar bikes for different purposes.

Snap-off 5 ヶ月前

There's only a few: BlueArc, Storm, and Motiv. Bluearc owns/makes Columbia 300, Ebonite, Hammer, Brunswick, DV8, Track, and Ultimate. Storm makes Storm, RotoGrip, 900 Global, 3G, and Master

Bruno S 8 ヶ月前

That's called "Big Bowling Industrial Complex". In mid 1963, a Japanese company started to manufacture bowling balls and less than a year later companies in Japan lobby the Americans to overthrow to government. Crazy industry.

AutPen38 9 ヶ月前

There's a lot of money in snake oil.

Andrew Harmless 10 ヶ月前

@Joshua The population has skyrocketed over the past decade due to the neighboring county being one of the fastest growing in the country. Our town personally didn't break a population of 10k untill around 2010. Prior to that hovered around 2k for all of the 90s into the 00s. Now it's much larger at close to 25k. So not much of a small town anymore.

Gull Lars 年前

I was familiar with some of these concepts, and i do throw curving balls, but this is much more detail than i knew. I usually try to aim for roughly the kind of curve shown here, but adapt to the conditions of the lane as i discover it through the first series. I've had 3 games in the 220s with standard house balls, and i suspect the lane conditions were very good coupled with a decent amount of luck on top of good shape those days. I don't bowl competitively or in any league, so i suspect my scores are dominated by the dice of public bowling lane oiling and the state of the house balls that day. In general I've found low friction (too much oil or smooth balls) to be my main problem. Though i did once bowl on an almost dry lane, which was horrible and no matter how calmly i tried to spin the ball it always went in the left gutter. When there's way too much oil in the "dry zone", i move the initial position of my curve further right, and possibly even slow down the speed of my ball. In the other case of a dry oiled section i move longer left and throw harder or put less spin on the ball.

Zoomjah 年前

Beautiful video! I quite enjoyed bowling as a kid, but as I got older it felt more frustrating more often. Then I learned that there are different oil patterns that got used, and that really turned me off as I had thought there is just a good form to bowl and not... but the oil and so much more really does change that. By the way I'm left-handed! Now I find that there are way more variables at play, which is fascinating, but really doesn't make me want to go bowling again! Lol.

Phenik 2 ヶ月前

Played on my high school team. I vaguely knew about most of this stuff before I started but once I learned a lot of the specifics I got significantly better. I’ve technically scored a 300 game with a consecutive 12 strikes just over the course of 2 games. The score of the better game and still my current record is 278. Got it at when I was 20.

V. E. 10 ヶ月前

Have bowled since age 5 and now that I'm old and disabled, I find I really miss going out for a few games now and then. Almost as much as I miss running. C'est la vie!

Richard Coleman ヶ月前

Try a quest 2 with fore bowling. Can play Sat down and feels great!

JC FC ヶ月前

When I was a kid, my neighbor use to take us bowling. Maureen was a big lady, and when she would roll the ball down the lane, the pins would jump out of the way of her ball. I can’t count how many 300 games she had but it was in the thousands. She could’ve been a pro, but she loved being a stay at home mom. Bowling was just a hobby for her.

BRUXXUS 年前

I know it would be a nightmare for the lane owner, but it would be really neat to use dyed oil to see how the pattern smears over time.

Elijah Pipkin 3 ヶ月前

@BRUXXUS they actually use red oil for a specific tournament every year I don’t remember what it is.

BRUXXUS 11 ヶ月前

@Timothy Watson True! I bet LiDAR and simulations could do a good job representing it.

Timothy Watson 11 ヶ月前

Digital scan shown on the monitors? That would be cool to see somehow

Rick Stone 年前

@BRUXXUS They actually did that once, I forget the occasion but it was cool

Mobiledonutshop 年前

@BRUXXUS They actually did a dark red not to long ago. For I want to say the US Open.

Austin Lake ヶ月前

I've always been fairly good at bowling, but never knew what I have learned here today. Always wondered what could increase my average closer to 300. Curved shots were something I always thought was just like a party trick, no one ever told me it was the difference maker.

gearmeister 年前

Great video! Glad I found it. On my first 300 game, I went to the lanes late in the morning, asked for the freshly oiled "virgin" lanes, asked for a few practice shots, started my game and kept throwing strikes. I took a break halfway through the game, talked to the attendant, he said start adjusting the hook & slightly slow the throw while reducing the spin, it worked! I got to frame 10 & the final throw was pretty slow but the 10 pin shook a little & fell. I went to collect my game score printout! 😁

itsnotme07 ヶ月前

Been bowling for almost 50 years now. Just learned more about the ball, the lane, and how best to use them in the last 28 min than I did in all 50 of those years. Haha. Wicked cool!

Crobertg10 年前

Good one! I knew there was more to the discipline than a ball thrown down the lane but never cared enough to research it. You brought it packaged and placed a bow on it, thanks brother. Keep on keeping!

Baard2000 10 ヶ月前

A friend of mine did Beer bowling every tuesday when studying on university: Each missed pin...was a beer. He told me after say 2 turns missing several pins everyhthing went exponentially worse from there and after 1.5 hours or so You definetaly needed 2 lanes AT LEAST!! Making the 6 degree approach angle very easy ..( on your neigbhours lane 🤣🤣🤣) The bowling alley owner was always prepared on tuesdays...

Khaled Aly 年前

I’m a bowler and the knowledge I’ve accumulated over 2 years is condensed into a 28 min video. This would have been helpful when I started 😂. Awesome video

Jay Morrison 年前

For. Real.

Arati Rao 年前

🔺 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE VERTASIUM

Scot Trudeau 年前

Don't for get about things not mentioned too....what weight ball do you want to use (15 and 16 lb balls usually have the same cores, while lighter weights have different cores)....bowling shoes and their different sole types for different ways of sliding on the approach (do you like a little or a lot of slide?). The different approaches people use...do you take a 3 step, 5 step or 7 step approach to the foul line? Do you start with your left or right foot forward or do you start with them side by side? Where on the approach do you start (how many boards left or right of the middle dot)? How much of an arm swing do you have? How much do you cup your wrist and how much do you rotate it at the line upon release? Do you bowl with 2 fingers or 3? Are you following through correctly after releasing the ball? Crazy all the little things you have to work on to get a perfect shot...into that 6 degree window.

Samuel 年前

i was just about to comment this, so many hours going through nearly decade old forums just to have it all spilled out in 28 mins

DUK 703 年前

@Noah O'Donnell absolutely

VulgarVegas 10 ヶ月前

I remember growing up and seeing pictures of some of the people in the 900 club and was just in awe how someone could pull that off and how stress filled it must have been to come down to the remaining frames in the last game.

Snap-off 5 ヶ月前

36 consecutive strikes is insane.

Rob Law 年前

This video explains what I think most of us have wondered about those crazy bowling balls (eg., why some shots look awesome and get strikes, others are just blah). It's not silly for a weekender to pick out "favourite" balls when bowling. thanks for posting! :D

Adrian B 7 ヶ月前

I love this game! My favorite passtime sport. Grew up playing in leagues pretty much all my life. It's funny how easily an oil pattern can defeat even the best bowlers. You can easily shoot 20-30 pins under average due to not understanding an oil pattern. Nevermind not using the right bowling ball to begin with. You combine the two, and that's when league bowlers start cussing and drinking more than usual.

James Estey 年前

That's also why pros will have strike and spare balls. Strike balls are meant to try to curve and hit the six degree angle, while there are quite a few balls that have a perfectly spherical core, so they curve very little. This allows much more accuracy, especially when you want to hit just one leftover pin (or if the pin is on the edges, and you can't curve it, or it would go in the gutter)

RC M 3 ヶ月前

Humans true super power.....taking something simple and making it as complicated as possible.

TheFilthyMob 年前

I love how offended he was when you asked him to make the bad shot on purpose. The man loves his job for sure.

WhiteHawk 年前

@king jeremy the wicked yeah, he seems like he’s the type to be pretty great at being an ass as well, those lines he gives in the competition after a strike were pretty cringe too.

JoshW_1981 年前

@scottydu81 absolutely agree.

scottydu81 年前

@JoshW_1981 He wouldn’t be as great if he wasn’t so temperamental

king jeremy the wicked 年前

@JoshW_1981 to keep things in perspective... he might be an all time great.... of bowling. So that carries little weight in the real world. LOL

JoshW_1981 年前

I am surprised. Pete Weber for sure has an ego and is one of the all time greats.

Robert Sr Ditz 11 ヶ月前

i knew most of this but could never explain it as articulate as you did. I sent this video to my son who is great bowler and said the is the most amazing bowling video explaining the physics, theory and technique I've ever seen. Amazing job Sir. I'm born and raised St. Louis and followed Pete and his Dad Dick.

Nick Fifis ヶ月前

I've never seen a video about bowling this in-depth. Thank you!

J 11 ヶ月前

I love how enthusiastic professionals are at this. they get as hyped from a strike as anyone else and I think that's amazing

machew2009 ヶ月前

This is definitely one of the coolest videos on JPvid always wondered these things about bowling and sure learned a ton

morris kammerer 5 ヶ月前

I worked evenings in a bowling alley in 1978 & 79 and learned lots of things that were surprising. One was the cost for fire insurance for a building filled with lanes made of oak, surfaced with 7 coats of lacquer, and kept oiled daily with a light coating of oil. All of these were quite flammable which made the insurance bill the largest expense that owners had. I was involved with laying the 7 coats of lacquer during that time and was very happy once we had finished because we pulled 1 coat every 4 hours with the fans turned off which meant the air became heavy with the vapors. As the years passed and balls were made from new materials, the lanes were made out of nonflammable materials coated with safer coatings.

Floating Lasgna Creature 年前

As someone who has bowled for 15 years and averages over 220 in league, I want to say this video is incredible! It goes into so much depth but still explains every concept correctly and simply. If you watched this video you know so much more about the science behind the sport than a majority of regular league bowlers. Most bowlers can not tell what the rg on a ball actually means

Zach Perez 年前

@Toffsen100 Really the best thing you can do to improve your game is to teach yourself how to hook a house ball. Just give it a shot every time you go out with friends and eventually you'll get decent at it. It doesn't happen overnight, but if you go like twice a month just for fun, I'm sure you'll see your average score jump up by like 20 pins or more within a year's time. The only big problem with house balls, is that even though you can still hook a ball with no weight block in it, house balls are very poorly kept a majority of the time. They usually have plastic covers and their surfaces are never maintained (because people get the ball off the rack, use it, then put it back on the rack for the next person to use, which is just the nature of using house balls) which means their surface is usually COATED in oil before you even throw your first ball. This means it will hook less. You can help the ball hook more by wiping it down with a towel or microfiber cloth before each throw, but I'm assuming you wouldn't want to do that while bowling with your friends because it would seem a little weird/cringey to them. Another giant factor is that every bowling alley maintains their oil very different. There are some bowling alleys that keep their lanes oiled very well throughout the entire day every day. On the other end, there are some bowling lanes that rarely oil their lanes, and even some who don't oil them ever. The worst are usually places that aren't specifically bowling centers. One good example would be Main Event Entertainment, Dave and Busters, etc. You have a better chance at bowling on well maintained lanes by going to places like AMF lanes, or any venue that is solely for bowling. Also, oil wears down relatively quickly, so the best time to go bowling would be during league time at your local alley, because many bowling centers oil right before league starts. Oil on one lane can be fairly broken down after 20 or more games have been bowled on it, give or take (5 people bowling 4 games each could wear it down a good amount). So if I'm being honest, the best way for you to increase your game casually would be to just try to hook the ball, and keep playing the game. If you go fairly regularly, eventually you will see you will start to improve. Even if you don't ever get your own bowling ball, I would recommend joining a league, just because it's a fun thing to do with your friends once a week and you don't have to be good at all to join a league. League's at my local bowling alley have bowlers with averages ranging from 85-230. I just do it to spend time with my friends and get out of the house once a week, we have some food and a couple drinks and bowl a few games. It's a good time. Also most alleys give their league bowlers good prices on games. My league is on wednesday, but league bowlers can come in any day of the week here and bowl games for $2 each. Hope this helps, sorry for the long essay, I'm currently on adderall for work and it's my lunch break and I couldn't think of something better to do than write this monstrosity of a reply.

Jasom Kovac 年前

@Toffsen100 , if you're right handed try throwing from the far right into the pocket. Don't throw straight down the middle, split city. Obviously opposite if one of those damned left handers.😄

Adam Winch 年前

with all respect the flying spaghetti monster is better than you

Keshuel 年前

@Vio Well a majority of them probably only play for fun and end up gambling their lives away. Only high level players know anything about their game.

Al Rats 年前

Generally scientists know a lot more about sports and the arts than sportspeople or artists know about science. That's a pity because artists/sportspeople have more to gain from learning the science behind their craft than scientists have to gain from knowing about sports or the arts.

Peter Fischer 10 ヶ月前

weirdly enough the most detailed and well put together Veritasium video I have seen. No clickbaity. Facts felt like a 10 min video. Props. Often you seem arrogant or ill informed even tho your a Physicist but this was very concise and to the point. Big up

Ben Young 24 日前

Love this video! You should do a scientific video like this analyzing skiing or snowboarding!

Torn 10 ヶ月前

Bowling was my favorite sport to take part in as a kid and me finding all of this cool information when I’m older really makes me wanna get back into it.

AIKISBEST 年前

The most important factor for me is usually to find the line between putting too much spin on the ball and too little. My biggest weakness is that Im very inconsistent.

Steve Auletto 年前

This video was absolutely excellent . Informative , visually engaging and just thoroughly enjoyable to watch. A sincere "thank you" for having such exemplary knowledge and skill at your craft.

Roger Glass 年前

Years ago, at my office, we had a league bowler who seemed an absolute marvel to the uninitiated. There was a bowling alley across the street, and once in a while after work we'd all go over, ostensibly to bowl, but mostly to watch him. To his coworkers, he appeared as good or better than the pros on TV, and newcomers would always ask why he himself wasn't up on the screen. He'd laugh and explain how we were all bowling on a "house shot" - i.e., a recreational oil pattern - and that house shots were easier to score on. He said this was no secret, that most regular bowlers were aware of the difference between patterns used for customer play - even league play - and those used for pro play. He assured us that if he had to bowl on pro patterns, we'd soon see the difference between him and the pros. I think it was pretty classy of him to be honest. I'm afraid that if I had been he, I'd have been tempted to describe myself as an undiscovered Don Carter.

RUSSTRIKING 年前

@macole I was a very heavy cranker. I carried 4 balls in my jr years. ALL WERE BLUE DOTS.When I wore a track in one, I moved to the next one. THAT WAS IN THE LATE 70s. I ALWAYS HAD SEVERAL PLASTICS IN MY BAG EVEN IN PBA I CASHED MANY TIMES WITH PLASTIC. When the lanes got tricky, I simplified & went to what was in all my control. AT 59YO, I STILL CRANK MORE THAN 99.97% OF BOWLERS. I CAN ALSO STROKE THE BALL. You need many balls. But being versatile is a must. Learn from left gutter to down the 1 board with every ball. make them work for you.

macole 年前

and every house had a different shot. that's why traveling league bowlers carried at least three or four different balls.

Cody Banks 年前

@RUSSTRIKING Hi, great share!! I completely understand your description of being "In The ZONE". Back in 2004 I played in a local U.S. Open Golf Qualifier. I had a friend Caddy for me. I had him keep my Scorecard and I only kept total track of the player's score I was assigned to. At the end of the round I walked off the green and was looking for the next hole. I didn't see where it was and asked my Caddy where it was? He LAUGHED and said, "We're done. This was the last hole." I was so FOCUSED on "One Shot at a Time", "Hit the shot that makes my NEXT shot EASY" that I had lost track of how many holes we had played. I made it a point to just mark down the other Player's score and then as I approached the next Tee Box to clear my mind and start "One Shot at a Time" again. The last 4.5 hours round felt like I had only been on the course for maybe an hour. Lost all track of time and I had shot an -11 under 61. One of my best rounds ever. :~)

QuidQuoPro 年前

I would respond with "Damn you and your eclipse of the significance of your skill! Teach me how to play like that so I can beat the living crap out of my nephew!"

RUSSTRIKING 年前

@Litos I would never know. I let my ball do the talking & he never rolled over, he rolled through! THAT WAS ALWAYS THE LESSON FOR THE BIG MOUTH THAT THOUGHT I NEEDED A LESSON!

Alijuandero 10 ヶ月前

I absolutely loved this video, i've been bowling for about 16 years now, and im 19 in a few days, im in a few leagues, including the youth league at my home centre. It's a YBC bowling league (Youth Bowl Canada) and i went to provincials a few weeks ago, ended up winning with an average of 222 over 6 games, and now im going to nationals to compete Canada wide, and internationals to compete across all of Canada and the United States it's gonna be a blast

Sprite v2 memes 年前

Being a regular bowler and having my own vlballs, this video helped me understand how bowling is even more

MurpleDeer 4 ヶ月前

I feel one of my greatest bowling accomplishments is that I managed to get a gutter ball on my first turn of that round with bumpers on

HighLordofTerra 3 ヶ月前

In British pubs people used to play skittles, like a mini version of bowling. You sadly don't see skittle lanes in pubs any more but it was a staple feature once. I haven't seen one for years. We have bowling alleys but they're really base quality.

peter ヶ月前

Oh i used to have quite a lot of fun playing in one of those as a child. Regular bowling, not any fun to me

David B Fox ヶ月前

The best video of bowling that I've ever seen. Now I know the science of bowling, I never gave a thought to the difference between bowling balls. This was incredibly informative.

John Galt Line 年前

Working around the bowling industry for the last 15 years or so, this actually is the most informative video I've seen on the subject. Plenty of pro shop guys could use to explain things this clearly.

Karl with a K 年前

@John Galt Line The thought that bowling is popular or participatory or a sport is entirely irrational. Also, I have lived in The Northeast, the south, Texas and California and have traveled to and through dozens of states. These places are always burned down by the last owner, boarded up, or have one car in the parking lot (the owners). I haven't spent much time in the heartland but if they are selling 3000 balls a day their must be 25 balls in everyone's house there.

John Galt Line 年前

@Karl with a K Did bowling touch you somewhere naughty as a child? You seem to have an irrational hate toward it for no good reason. Like I said before, as far as participation sports go, Bowling packs more active players in to the square footage than most other sports. Even "small" bowling centers support thousands of bowlers each week. Sure, the midwest has a higher than average bowling rate, but it's not like people don't bowl anywhere else. Like mentioned before, bowling is nearly as popular in the deep south, and north east. Now, all of this is on it being the largest participation sport in the US. As far as the world at large, I honestly don't know. I think 9 pin tends to be played more outside of North America. Bowling, at least as far as the modern game, is also very expensive. You can't build multi-million dollar bowling centers in little villages that don't have running water. In most densely packed European cities small alleys with 2-4 lanes are about all that can be squeezed in, which lead to it being more of an occasional game rather than a regular sport. So, over all, In the US it is the largest sport, and in the rest of the world, they can't afford it or can't fit it. It's not that they are some enlightened beings that think it is stupid and would never play it, they just don't have access.

Karl with a K 年前

@John Galt Line All you are saying is the Midwest is counterbalancing the rest of the world unwilling to roll a rock at some sticks by having an extremely high proportion of people playing the laziest, most outdated "game" in the world.

John Galt Line 年前

@Karl with a K absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. That said, it carries by location. The Midwest is still the largest bowling area generally it’s a bigger sport the higher the population in an area. Bowling centers are rather expensive to build the large ones that support lots of people. Even at that, a realitively small house can hold more bowlers at once than a similar sized facility for most other sports. For example, the “small” 24 lane houses that are common place all over the country support up to 120 people all bowling a league at once, with about a 3.5 hour turnover before they can fill it again. While there are “only” about 1.4 million sanctioned league bowlers, that’s only a fraction of the number of people that go bowling. There are many more that do it recreational but still fairly often. This to the point that many centers limit their leagues in order to keep more lanes free for open bowlers, where they make more money.

Karl with a K 年前

@John Galt Line I know dozens of people that play sports of all kinds...I do not know one bowler. I actually thought they went out of business 25 years ago. I haven't seen a bowling alley in decades.

Roc Schmidt 10 ヶ月前

I,ve been bowling for most of my youth and my entire adult life. I quit about 8 years ago because our local bowling alley shut down. I tried to bowl out of town but it was to much of a hassle. Back then when I purchased a ball, I knew what I wanted the ball to do and how I wanted it drilled. I was pretty good at bowling, with multable 300 games and 800 series games. The technology that came around over the years, made everyone a better bowler. These days it is very common to see a 175 average bowler shoot 300. The 300 game is pretty common all over the U.S. For every 300 bowled in a sanctioned league makes you eligible to buy a gold 300 ring a the market rate of gold. They are fairly expensive. I bowled my first 300 when I was 20 years old and back then, the 300 game was rare so the gold rings were at no charge to the bowler. That is the one that is very special to me because It cost me nothing. every one after that, I had to pay for it if I wanted to. Bowling in a league was like going to church. You would see each other once a week. I have made many friends as a result of bowling but since the closure I hardly see the people I used to bowl with anymore. It was a wonderful time in my life. Oh and by the way your video was outstanding. The best video to date regarding how technology has evolved in the sport.

George Finney IV 8 ヶ月前

Thank you very much for making this video! I have bought alot of bowling balls over the years I bowl a few times a week so im a junkie and the pro shop guy is able to explain some of this stuff but you explained RG perfectly along with alot of other things. I really appreciate the chart of what changes ball motion the most. So much good information here!

SuperCisMan ヶ月前

Great video. Just wish there was a segment about the creation and explanation of the pins. And then how different angles and contact would be used to hit pins that are split

3D Printing Professor 7 ヶ月前

Last time I went bowling I bowled a pretty good game. I think I threw about 5 or 6 strikes, and knocked down at least 9 pins in every frame if I didn't pickup the spare. I was playing with the lanes balls and I was making no attempts to hook it. Just chuck it a to the right of the center pin as straight as possible. It was a great game and made me think "maybe I should take up bowling in my spare time." What I got from this was that I got that amazing score using the wrong type of ball and the wrong technique. Well if I can do that being wrong, I'm not sure I want to be right.

Ojo Joshua 11 ヶ月前

Never crossed my mind that bowling could be this technical. Very interesting

frogsinpants 年前

My takeaway from the section at the end about advancements in bowling technology is this: I'm getting better at bowling every year without actually bowling. Thanks, science!

Arati Rao 年前

🔹 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE VERTASIUM

Corbald 年前

@Bruno Recalde OOOOOhhhhhh! A verbal pratfall! Touché! I am wounded! (sly wink to those following along)

TheCimbrianBull 年前

The Dude abides! 🎳

kilroy999aolcom 年前

Very cool, Learned a lot about how much goes into the art of bowling. Also was nice to see a different side of Mr Weber. Much respect. Thanks for making.

Juan Melendez Rivera 6 ヶ月前

Thanks for this vídeo. Common sense adjustments agree with scentific studies. Less oil makes you adjust your throwing more to the center of the lane to hit the pocket. For a dry lanes the aim zone will be narrow and to the center ( mark 10 to 17 right hand and mark 30 to 23 left hand). Two handed throwers need more power and will follow similar aim zone release adjustments. No nightmare , a dry lane is a challenge to make adjustments for pros and amateurs alike. Thanks and have a great bowling day.

GeoffryHawk 10 ヶ月前

My grandfather bowled several 300 games in his long life, but he was always part of a local bowling team/league. Whenever I visited we'd all go to the bowling alley and bowl. But I have a weird thumb so your general balls are hard for me to throw, short thumb, very wide it would always get stuck inside the thumb hole xD I had a wicked spin when I did release it, it'd go all the way around xD Having fucked up thumbs sometimes helped haha.

Brian 年前

I'm only a minute in but this is going to be one of those treasure YT videos. My company"s holiday party is at a bowling alley on Saturday and I was already pumped but now that the Universe... or the algorithm sent this my way I'm extra fired up to hopefully bowl over 100!!!! I love bowling but have been maybe a dozen times in 41 years

George Finney IV 8 ヶ月前

In that case this video would be totally irrelevant for you my brother !

Brian 8 ヶ月前

@George Finney IV Never hooked a ball or even tried

George Finney IV 8 ヶ月前

If you bowled over 100 you got lucky lol. He didn't mention house balls don't carry a core so you aren't gonna go hook a house ball into the pocket at 6 degrees like a pro.

Oscar Keats 年前

I went to a friend’s house tonight and played Wii sports and I absolutely demolished them in bowling because I remembered the technique in this video. Physics really is useful, thanks Veritasium.

maruftim 年前

".. We need the oil. If there was no oil, nobody would have fun." That's the most American thing ever said coincidentally

brett harter 10 ヶ月前

Funniest comment ive ever seen.

Robert Sr Ditz 11 ヶ月前

It wouldn't be fun and I would be wore out throwing the ball so hard.

scottyslave 年前

Bowling is such an ego sport... When you bowl good, it's because you're good. When you bowl bad, the lanes suck.

Craig Scott 年前

@SamiK With wind and solar, all leagues will non-oil leagues.

smokey04200420 年前

Dammit right!

Mark Shaw 年前

Fascinating. The only thing you left out is the amount of finger digits that go in the ball (zero, 1, or 2). 2 is what house balls use at alleys. 1 (fingertip) is what most pros use. And zero is those weird folks that don't put their fingers in the ball at all.

Ukepa 年前

excellent segment... pro bowlers need a lot more knowledge than I thought

AtomicPunk23 年前

When I was a kid my aunt had an indoor toy bowling kit with two plastic balls and pins. I finally understand why it sucked so bad: no oil makes bowling a boring chore. His face when he was asked to bowl on an un-oiled lane was the same face we made when my aunt set up the pins up on the carpet. ;)

Laurence Perkins 年前

Try it on the lawn instead. That makes it interesting all over again. ;)

Jacob Thrall 7 ヶ月前

I seem to remember an episode of Hill Street Blues where Stan Jablonski bowled a perfect game, but it ended up being disqualified because the league examined the lane and found the oil used on the wood caused the ball to be allowed to slide, giving him an unfair advantage. Jabo was furious. Seems he was just ahead of his time.

Robert Sr Ditz 10 ヶ月前

I still have my Johnny Petraglia LT-48 rubber ball. If I throw it on a synthetic lane it doesn't hook. Interesting how the perfect games increased when LT-48 came out.

Patemathic 年前

The production quality exceeds many TV shows at this point! Well done Derek and everyone involved in the production.

falsemcnuggethope 年前

Not just many but most. There's a lot of trash on TV.

R4M_845 ヶ月前

Ever since I got my new Storm Phaze 2 last week, my configuration is a pin-up Fingertip. Still learning how to use my new ball but I find that tucking the pinky and spreading the pointing finger out as possible helped me more, I aim for the board 15 as I bowl straight.

JonTee4Free 10 ヶ月前

Its so crazy that bowling became such a skilled and interesting game just because they wanted to protect the floor. Humanity is beautiful.

Matt Matt 2 ヶ月前

The most important factor is bowler applied force. How a bowler rolls the ball is more important than what the cover is made of, the core of the ball, the finish of the cover, or even the oil on the lanes.

Ellaine Malan 年前

I always just played the sport, I never knew how much science went into it! I'm pleasantly surprised!

Damoinion ヶ月前

Nice explanation. I drove my local pro and the shop nuts when measuring me for drilling. I'm right handed and my thumb pattern fits that but my fingers map out L/H. Got even more obvious when I shifted to fingertip!!

Ivan the Space Biker 年前

I remember fondly when my dad told me of a story once when he partook in a perfect game competition back in the '80s which awards the winner a car. He said that the more strikes he got the more judges sat near him to observe his throws. He said that he lost his streak at the tenth throw from the pressure of being observed closely by so many people. Having watched this video, I'm guessing that the factors related oil had more to do with him losing the streak than the pressure. This video gave me a new appreciation for that story

RedGambitt_ 年前

Maybe, but I’m pretty sure there’s evidence that when you’re aware of an audience watching in a high pressure situation, it can negatively impact your performance.

Scot Trudeau 年前

One problem I've always noticed about bowling in a league and trying to get a 300 is that when you are in the 9th frame, the whole bowling alley gets really quiet all of a sudden with a lot of people deciding to stop bowling to come watch you try to get that 300....that change in atmosphere affects a lot of people and can affect someone's focus.

Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 年前

I imagine the contest would have been that way by design.

Hypnotazia 年前

@Chris Freemesser What a coincedence, you also watched that Veritasium video about bowling!

MadKingTylor 年前

Thank you soooo much for making a video like this to express how technical the sport of bowling can be

David Miller 10 ヶ月前

I grew up with bowling from the point of view of helping with my father's invention. Automatic Scoring. Playing was never my focus. This was a great introduction to the rest of 'mechanics'.

COBS: Sharpening Your FPS Skills 年前

7:35: It's amazing how accurate some things are that humans do. Modern "shooter" video games are a good example of this. When I was first getting serious about my aim, I started doing things like measuring my sensitivity, how big targets were in respect to mouse movements, etc, and it's astonishing how fine and accurate those movements need to be. Even with a very low sensitivity, it's not uncommon for a person size target at a medium distance to require mouse movements more accurate than a half a millimeter to hit the shot. And considering that this often all unfolds in under a second between noticing the person, snapping the crosshairs on them and then shooting, it's an astonishing thing.

COBS: Sharpening Your FPS Skills 日前

@wingracer 16: Yuppers. I suspect you'd sort of "feel" a kind of instant visual feedback if it's anything like the gaming thing. And it IS true, humans can only react so fast, but I have to wonder if maybe the R/C thing is similar where that latency (which IS *far* below human reaction times) is what feels janky or not quite "immediate" or real. A friend and I have actually been working on an aim trainer lately and while playtesting and such, I've realized that even tiny delays for inputs makes it feel super weird. It's almost like you're not quite the one in control, or maybe it feels "sloppy" or less precise maybe? Hard to put into words. All I can say at this point is that even with an ultra high framerate, a bit of input/rendering delay can really reduce how immediate and accurate it feels. It's interesting enough, I'm still considering doing formal research on the topic. It's almost like the brain has a secondary "shortcut" past conscious control for doing very fine, accurate split second decision updates. When shooting in the trainer, even that latency (Which I'd estimate at around 30 to 40 milliseconds total which is like 1/5th typical reaction times) easily cuts my hitrate in half for flick shots that are themselves only around 50 milliseconds total from the start of motion to hitting the shot. It's crazy enough I'm considering doing formal research on the subject. I'd really like to know if we have some secondary "shortcut" in the brain for ultra fast, non conscious decision making or if it's just a case of the lack of feeling immediate just makes it feel confusing or what's going on. In my case, I've actually measured my own reaction time extensively and I CAN push it down to like 180 to 200 milliseconds, but these ultra fast aim corrections are like 5 to 10x as fast which is what kind of boggles my mind. With the racing thing, is it a "feel" sort of thing as well?

wingracer 16 日前

This is an argument I get into all the time with RC car racers. When talking about things like servo speeds and latency, someone always comes along with "the average human can only..." BS. Problem is, the professionals are NOT average.

COBS: Sharpening Your FPS Skills 年前

@Ararix Good news! I have a whole channel devoted to the topic! :D

Ararix 年前

I like the way you think

Bbhadat This 5 ヶ月前

For asymmetric weighted balls with 3 principle axis of rotation, does this mean in space these will flip around like other spinning objects affected by the Tennis Racket Theorem? Because that I'd like to see.

Teacher Homie G 年前

Never thought much about the physics of this sport. I assumed it was like a dead straight three point shot, based on mechanics of the release and angles. If one practiced the correct launch, so to speak, they’d be a great bowler. Just like a professional basketball player that can shoot in practice or competition without a defender. They can stroke several in a row. Like Klay Thompson making 24 in a row the other day. Now I see I was way off. Bowling is a true science. That many variables to a strike is crazy! And it seems like pro bowlers just figured out a cheat code. Great vid!

Harpoon_Bakery 年前

someone made 24 in a row?

Motifity 年前

"WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? I AM" Best line ever, bowling isn't the same without Pete

Pinoy Bowler 年前

@Motifity He actually retired from the PBA Tour but he’s now with the PBA50 Tour.

Deathbrewer 年前

@Philippe Van Lieu "I trash talk, therefore I am." -- Pete, probably.

Strateeg 年前

@NateStorm12 how is equistrian not a sport but curling is? Do tell

Cody Smith 年前

DAMIT RIGHT!

George Humphrey 年前

I use to bowl three nights a week. I had a game where i picked up the spare in my first frame, blew the second frame and then rolled ten strikes in a row for a 274 game the highest I ever bowled. I won my way into a Pro/Am tournament and thought maybe I could bowl for a living. Late night games for money was always fun. Army sent me to Vietnam and I lost a leg which ended my bowling years.

Wayne Hewitt 8 ヶ月前

Very interesting. There is way more to bowling than I had thought. 😊

Daniel J Stark 8 ヶ月前

Superbly done. So many things I had no idea about. Fascinating.

Terry Camerlengo 年前

What an amazing video. So well researched and organized.

Ninji522 年前

This was pretty damn informative, and equally entertaining.

E1craZ4life 年前

Government: bans nine-pin bowling. Smart guy: invents ten-pin bowling.

Regen Palkar 年前

@Lil BIgBob this is not good wisdom

parkerbohnn 年前

Fiorello La Guardia banned pinball in New York because he couldn't get a free game unless he matched numbers at the end of the game. He should have been thrown in prison for that one.

Lee 年前

@Lil BIgBob I was hoping for something profound at the end... ya cut me deep.

Lil BIgBob 年前

lol ... ...... ...Why are you still here ... ... ... ... bye......

God OfWine&Tits 年前

Police: You are all under arrest for illegal 9 pin bowling Bowlers: We are not playing 9 pin look at that wood branch beside the other pin, Its 10 pin bowling Police: Ok how do I place my bet?

Adrian White 年前

What an amazing video. Such passion people have for an activity. Hey, question. Looking at the graph showing the change in the number of perfect games (at least I think that's what the graph was showing) that biggest change in the number was between 1978 and 1980. Is there any explanation for that?

Amy Toth ヶ月前

I love bowling 9 pin. It's more like a team sport and SOOO much fun.

Mike Kettering ヶ月前

I was entertained and learned a lot of things about one of my favorite sports to play and watch when I was a kid with my dad. Earl Anthony was one of our favorites...

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